Ohhhh ok. So I was dreaming when I actually powered my amp with a 9 volt huh?
The reason YOU only want a woofer in a guitar cabinet is if the highs are to clear, you'll be forced to accept the flaws in your playing. Running full frequency is completely unforgiving. You want to really put your skills up against someone elses, compare playing through a full frequency enclosure that is designed to mask nothing.
What I am saying is this.
1) The industry exagerates specs, particularly in automotive gear.
2) Running a hotter signal into an amp cranking out 50 watts can yield more volume
3) A larger magnet does not necessarily mean more dampening. That was a pretty open ended statement. It's a motor structure designed to maximize efficiency and accurate sound reproduction. Dig through some of the research that's available from Altec Lansing. The large magnet structure in many designs was utilised to maximize efficiency and performance, particularly when the industry started working with more rigid cone materials.
I guess the accuracy tests involving magent weights and charges mean nothing either huh?
Like tests where they have compared identical speakers but one's magnet has been giving a greater charge which yielded quicker response meaning it delivered more accurate reproduction. Also the same results when identical speakers were compared but the one with a larger magnet structure yielded quicker and more accurate response. Yes these tests mean nothing to your great minds that invented the word audio itself.
And as far as bass goes, you go ahead and shred through some arpeggios on your rig and I'll shred through them on mine. Your tone is going to sound limp, sloppy and thin compared to mine. It's also going to lack detail in the high end so no one knows you are at best, half as accurate as I am. Nice to have a bass player but they're pretty usesless when I'm hitting 24 note arpeggios a second....which I believe is shattering the world record but not as though I care.
The reason YOU only want a woofer in a guitar cabinet is if the highs are to clear, you'll be forced to accept the flaws in your playing. Running full frequency is completely unforgiving. You want to really put your skills up against someone elses, compare playing through a full frequency enclosure that is designed to mask nothing.
What I am saying is this.
1) The industry exagerates specs, particularly in automotive gear.
2) Running a hotter signal into an amp cranking out 50 watts can yield more volume
3) A larger magnet does not necessarily mean more dampening. That was a pretty open ended statement. It's a motor structure designed to maximize efficiency and accurate sound reproduction. Dig through some of the research that's available from Altec Lansing. The large magnet structure in many designs was utilised to maximize efficiency and performance, particularly when the industry started working with more rigid cone materials.
I guess the accuracy tests involving magent weights and charges mean nothing either huh?
Like tests where they have compared identical speakers but one's magnet has been giving a greater charge which yielded quicker response meaning it delivered more accurate reproduction. Also the same results when identical speakers were compared but the one with a larger magnet structure yielded quicker and more accurate response. Yes these tests mean nothing to your great minds that invented the word audio itself.
And as far as bass goes, you go ahead and shred through some arpeggios on your rig and I'll shred through them on mine. Your tone is going to sound limp, sloppy and thin compared to mine. It's also going to lack detail in the high end so no one knows you are at best, half as accurate as I am. Nice to have a bass player but they're pretty usesless when I'm hitting 24 note arpeggios a second....which I believe is shattering the world record but not as though I care.
no, you are bashing my playing skills, and that of just about every musician out there. You cannot controll the harshness of a high end sound with your guitar, that is why you only want a limited responce. In addition, guitars cannot produce sound up in the 15khz range, the sound they make up there is very harsh and will hurt your ears if amped. So adding a peizo will make it sound bad, Especially with effects such as distortion, which is particulary harsh on your ears in the upper range. Its not about masking poor playing skills at all... where that came from I have no clue 
I know the industry exaggerates specs, particularly in automotive gear....🙄 you think automotive is bad, you should look at computer audio!! 🙄 🙄 600 watts PMPO! when they cant muster out more than 5 watts at awful distortion levels.
Yes running a hotter signal into an amp can yeild more volume, but you will be pushing the amp to its limits and there will be considerably more distortion, because the amp will begin to clip.
A 50 watt amp can only put out 50 watts, especially if it is rated at 10%THD. Yes you can pump more volume out of it by running a hotter signal into it, but your only gonna drive the amp harder and utilize that 50 watts at awful distortion levels.
Its the same as cranking your radio all the way up. If you had a cd player connected to it, you could get more volume out of it, but it would sound so nasty you couldnt listen to it for long.
I will say one thing about your project:
My friend has a fender twin 12, 100 watt RMS cab. He ran it on 4 out of 10 at the last band practice, and we were cranking around 110 db ( we had several meters in the room.) He actually had to turn the volume down at several points because our mains weren't loud enough to match it. Mind you these mains are 800 watt RMS 18inch emminence kappa pro's on the bottom, with a 2x15 emminence on top of that , and a 4x12 jbl on top of that , and two horn loaded cabs on top of that, EACH channel, running from 4 800 watt cerwin-vega power amps and a 60 channel mixer at a church.
the truth is ( and I was only trying to help you here ) was that with guitar, you don't need much power to go very loud. Combine that fact with a efficient single woofer cabinet that doesnt take much power to drive, thus allowing you to use a low powered amplifier that you can run on batteries for long periods without a recharge, you are set.
cheers,
TSD88~ 😉
I resign from this topic.
I know the industry exaggerates specs, particularly in automotive gear....🙄 you think automotive is bad, you should look at computer audio!! 🙄 🙄 600 watts PMPO! when they cant muster out more than 5 watts at awful distortion levels.
Yes running a hotter signal into an amp can yeild more volume, but you will be pushing the amp to its limits and there will be considerably more distortion, because the amp will begin to clip.
A 50 watt amp can only put out 50 watts, especially if it is rated at 10%THD. Yes you can pump more volume out of it by running a hotter signal into it, but your only gonna drive the amp harder and utilize that 50 watts at awful distortion levels.
Its the same as cranking your radio all the way up. If you had a cd player connected to it, you could get more volume out of it, but it would sound so nasty you couldnt listen to it for long.
I will say one thing about your project:
My friend has a fender twin 12, 100 watt RMS cab. He ran it on 4 out of 10 at the last band practice, and we were cranking around 110 db ( we had several meters in the room.) He actually had to turn the volume down at several points because our mains weren't loud enough to match it. Mind you these mains are 800 watt RMS 18inch emminence kappa pro's on the bottom, with a 2x15 emminence on top of that , and a 4x12 jbl on top of that , and two horn loaded cabs on top of that, EACH channel, running from 4 800 watt cerwin-vega power amps and a 60 channel mixer at a church.
the truth is ( and I was only trying to help you here
) was that with guitar, you don't need much power to go very loud. Combine that fact with a efficient single woofer cabinet that doesnt take much power to drive, thus allowing you to use a low powered amplifier that you can run on batteries for long periods without a recharge, you are set.cheers,
TSD88~ 😉
I resign from this topic.
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