Rob,
Your an american warmonger (somehow we all are if we live here. Never mind the fact that many of us don't blindly agree 100% with the government's position these days). Don't expect to see any respect from the majority here.
I'm sorry about your son. It's a shame that we can't protect our kids these days with the media being what it is. I came here to talk about audio, but I am getting really fed up with all the off-hand comments and general lack of respect shown here.
I can undestand Robs point of view and that some of the pictures
may be problematic if his son is viewing. However, it gets more
problematic as I could immediately point out a recent posting of
an LP convolute that would be even harder for him to explain to
his son, and that could be argued to be audio-related. I won't
provide a link in case Robs son is watching. I can however agree
that the picture John posted may be regarded as porn and not
relevant to the subject. Hey, if it had been Laura Bush instead
of Hillary I would at least have understood what was supposed
to be fun about it.
As for the picture Till posted, that is more problematic in my
opinion. OK, it is simple in the sense that it was not audio-related.
It can be argued to be relevant in the context of the thread
where it was posted, and why is Rob reading a political thread
with his son watching, by the way? Suppose Robs hobby had
been photography. I have photo books at home with several
classic examples of photojournalism looking almost exactly like
the picture Till posted. It would be very hard to argue why they
should be banned from a photo forum, for instance.
I am not saying that the pictures that were censored should
be allowed, but I am saying that there may be cases where it
is much harder to draw a borderline, and it will be impossible
for a poster to know beforehand what is allowed and not.
Getting sinbinned or not seems to be at the mercy of the
moderators.
Possibly embarassing material ahead
So what about the following picture. Is it embarassing or
unsuitable? It certainly isn't audio-related but what is it?
Art? Porn? Or just bad art? (Sorry for the bad picturure
quality, I had to shrink it a lot and the original photo is bad).
may be problematic if his son is viewing. However, it gets more
problematic as I could immediately point out a recent posting of
an LP convolute that would be even harder for him to explain to
his son, and that could be argued to be audio-related. I won't
provide a link in case Robs son is watching. I can however agree
that the picture John posted may be regarded as porn and not
relevant to the subject. Hey, if it had been Laura Bush instead
of Hillary I would at least have understood what was supposed
to be fun about it.
As for the picture Till posted, that is more problematic in my
opinion. OK, it is simple in the sense that it was not audio-related.
It can be argued to be relevant in the context of the thread
where it was posted, and why is Rob reading a political thread
with his son watching, by the way? Suppose Robs hobby had
been photography. I have photo books at home with several
classic examples of photojournalism looking almost exactly like
the picture Till posted. It would be very hard to argue why they
should be banned from a photo forum, for instance.
I am not saying that the pictures that were censored should
be allowed, but I am saying that there may be cases where it
is much harder to draw a borderline, and it will be impossible
for a poster to know beforehand what is allowed and not.
Getting sinbinned or not seems to be at the mercy of the
moderators.
Possibly embarassing material ahead So what about the following picture. Is it embarassing or
unsuitable? It certainly isn't audio-related but what is it?
Art? Porn? Or just bad art? (Sorry for the bad picturure
quality, I had to shrink it a lot and the original photo is bad).
Attachments
I don´t want to say anything against this point why my pic was moved. If anybody says he looks on the pivs postred in this board with his little son i have to belive this, also i think there are more interesting things for little boys to do with than looking in the internet. But wouldn´t it be enough to move the picture away, and send a note to the member who posted it? Must it be i´m not informaed in any way but find myself back in sinbin? I can´t see a sin in doing what i did. I see a sin in supporting war.
WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE?
Hi,
Hmmmm, you did miss the point of it somehow.
A cartoon is a cartoon and not porn even if it is sexually tinted, I think.
I feel that if the picture would have been a black&white handdrawn one it would have been perceived completely different.
Not that I want to give anyone any ideas here...
It sent a message across and I think that John was well aware that he was walking a thin line.
You have to view it in the context of the other cartoon that preceded that one.
Anyway, before I give the impression of defending porn, I do agree wholeheartedly that it would have been better not to post it.
The point though was that the sentence was a bit harsh with respect to the deed.
Which why we contribute to thread, is it not?😉
Cheers,😉
Hi,
Hmmmm, you did miss the point of it somehow.
A cartoon is a cartoon and not porn even if it is sexually tinted, I think.
I feel that if the picture would have been a black&white handdrawn one it would have been perceived completely different.
Not that I want to give anyone any ideas here...
It sent a message across and I think that John was well aware that he was walking a thin line.
You have to view it in the context of the other cartoon that preceded that one.
Anyway, before I give the impression of defending porn, I do agree wholeheartedly that it would have been better not to post it.
The point though was that the sentence was a bit harsh with respect to the deed.
Which why we contribute to thread, is it not?😉
Cheers,😉
Re: WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE?
Seems I missed the point, then. Well, I guessed there was one
since john posted it. I just meant, that since I didn't get the
joke it was reasonable to label it porn from my point of view,
but I did not mean it should be just because I didn't get the joke.
Are you asking John to try a pen drawing of the same picture? 😉
I agree completely and that is my point; since it is obviously
quite impossible to know beforehand what is acceptable to
post and what is not, immediate sinbinning is not a very good
way to deal with it. It is a bit like having no speed limits but a
law saying that you are not allowed to drive too fast, and if you
drive too fast you go to jail.
Well, not really, but I agree the picture I posted was a test.
I do not expect to get sinbinned for it, however. If I do, well...
fdegrove said:
Seems I missed the point, then. Well, I guessed there was one
since john posted it. I just meant, that since I didn't get the
joke it was reasonable to label it porn from my point of view,
but I did not mean it should be just because I didn't get the joke.
Are you asking John to try a pen drawing of the same picture? 😉
I agree completely and that is my point; since it is obviously
quite impossible to know beforehand what is acceptable to
post and what is not, immediate sinbinning is not a very good
way to deal with it. It is a bit like having no speed limits but a
law saying that you are not allowed to drive too fast, and if you
drive too fast you go to jail.
Well, not really, but I agree the picture I posted was a test.
I do not expect to get sinbinned for it, however. If I do, well...
Re: Re: WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE?
I'll make sure you won't.😉 ... and this is definitely not porn, I asked my son.😉
Christer said:
I'll make sure you won't.😉 ... and this is definitely not porn, I asked my son.😉
I also don't think that the rest of us should be limited with regards to pictorial content, because somebody decides to browse the forum with his 3 year old son looking over the shoulder (especially a political thread). You are now aware of the risks you take.😉
Peter/ sometime likes to forget that he is a moderator.😉
Peter/ sometime likes to forget that he is a moderator.😉
Peter Daniel said:
Thank goodness. Some common sense. I never thought this forum was for anyone but adults, so I hardly see the need to change what I post simply because there is the odd chance someone's kid might be looking.
Peter Daniel said:
Okay, thanks. I guess I misunderstood the rules. Now I know.
And, for the record, I'd have no problem with my kid seeing Christer's drawing. 😉
My 2 year old likes to look at the Forum when I'm reading it at home. It's fascinating to him because it's something Dada is looking at instead of reading him one of his Teletubbies books. And he thinks that Brett fellow is soooooo funny!
THE RULES ARE BENT.
Hi,
Rob M, I sincerely hope you'll stick with us.
Events like this are really exceptional...I also hope that the young sprout will follow in daddy's footsteps and become a DIY fan.
Cheers,😉
Hi,
Rob M, I sincerely hope you'll stick with us.
Events like this are really exceptional...I also hope that the young sprout will follow in daddy's footsteps and become a DIY fan.
Cheers,😉
Nope, I'm not going anywhere. I've got too much learn from you guys! I just won't read it with the kids in the room.
And dont worry, I'm sure he'll be funnier than me, though hopefully not funnier looking.
And dont worry, I'm sure he'll be funnier than me, though hopefully not funnier looking.
I just wanted to clarify the statement made earlier with regard page 3 girls in UK newspapers. As has been previously stated, this forum has it's own rules and what may be accepted in a UK newspaper may well be deemed inappropriate here. As a whole, the forums are quite well self moderated but occassionally there is a situation that requires the action of a moderator. We dont take enjoyment in giving Sin Bin sentences but the most simple rule of all is that if you break the rules, there will be consquences.
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