"My own approach is to make the signal path as simple as possible, work to lower the distortion
of that basic circuit before feedback is applied, and then apply minimal (or no) feedback, largely
in agreement with the comments in Linsley-Hood’s original article. The result is not always the
best objective measurements, but the sound is often interesting."
That's my diy principle too. I was inspired by your Zen amp and designed an MOSFET based amp along that line. It sounds very relax. Simple circuit suffers less from the noise/distortion generated by the extra circuits. Thus more music details can be heard. And I don't need lot of power to be satisfied..🙂
Nice to have such a amplifer guru and mentor like you around and more importantly willing to contribute to the diyer community.
Many thanks, Kam
of that basic circuit before feedback is applied, and then apply minimal (or no) feedback, largely
in agreement with the comments in Linsley-Hood’s original article. The result is not always the
best objective measurements, but the sound is often interesting."
That's my diy principle too. I was inspired by your Zen amp and designed an MOSFET based amp along that line. It sounds very relax. Simple circuit suffers less from the noise/distortion generated by the extra circuits. Thus more music details can be heard. And I don't need lot of power to be satisfied..🙂
Nice to have such a amplifer guru and mentor like you around and more importantly willing to contribute to the diyer community.
Many thanks, Kam
Very interesting.
I was missing a SOX or a ZV7 in the performance chart though, it could have been interesting.
Magura 🙂
I was missing a SOX or a ZV7 in the performance chart though, it could have been interesting.
Magura 🙂
1.8M on http://www.passlabs.com/np/PLH.pdf
380KB on http://czsr_bac.on.neobee.net/PLH.pdf
hehe-important for us 56K users 😀
380KB on http://czsr_bac.on.neobee.net/PLH.pdf
hehe-important for us 56K users 😀
I've been in the process of building a Class-A amp for many years now. I have a separate prototype (ugly) power supply built. I have a chassis, and heatsink arrangement. So which should I build? Nelson, you haven't made it any easier by adding the PLH into the mix.
Thanks!
One thing about this hobby is I'll never run out of things to build. Maybe I'll build prototype versions of all of them. And a Mini-A. Of course, I'll need better speakers to evaluate them properly.
Thanks!
One thing about this hobby is I'll never run out of things to build. Maybe I'll build prototype versions of all of them. And a Mini-A. Of course, I'll need better speakers to evaluate them properly.
Thanks...
...for honored myself dedicating this new amp to my name ;-).
But..where are the lights?
...for honored myself dedicating this new amp to my name ;-).
But..where are the lights?
SUSY!!!
In figure 5, the jlh with diff input I see a SUSY version. Just add a phase splitter and an output stage to the other side of the diff!😀
In figure 5, the jlh with diff input I see a SUSY version. Just add a phase splitter and an output stage to the other side of the diff!😀
A Pass-JLH article... you cannot image my excitement... read it at once.. Another great article by the one-and-only .. 🙂 Thanks Nelson! I'm gonna read it many times, just like JLH's origial. Very , very interesting, especially the outtro ... allways like your way you look at these things, great inspiration..
Well done 😉
regards,
Thijs
PS
And a tip to the hat for Geoff of the class-A website and Rod. Cheers m8.
Well done 😉
regards,
Thijs
PS
And a tip to the hat for Geoff of the class-A website and Rod. Cheers m8.
I enjoyed the read with a hot cup of coffee early today. The comparisons with the other amps was very interesting. You can see the Zenv4's excellent design by being steady across the board normalized or otherwise. Its voltage regulator and the Aleph CCS probably playing a big part. The PLH showing less distortion at lower power while the JLH is the opposite. Could this be because the PLH has 2 pairs of output stage? As per my read it looks like Fig.11 was the one tested. Did the JLH tested just had one pair of output stage? The Zen while having more distortion obviously is of the pleasant to the ears kind as noted by all the hundreds of DIYers who built it.
This recent article of NP brings into my consciousness the classic designs like the JLH and its designer. It's a nice feeling to know audio history and learn from it. Thanks Nelson! More please...
This recent article of NP brings into my consciousness the classic designs like the JLH and its designer. It's a nice feeling to know audio history and learn from it. Thanks Nelson! More please...
Pass Linsley Hood= John Linsley Hood's illigitimate younger brother?
Until recently never mentioned in polite society, the secret is now out!
A very similar situation to PDQ Bach!
Until recently never mentioned in polite society, the secret is now out!

A very similar situation to PDQ Bach!
Nelson, have you any pictures of the internals, specifically the point-to-point wiring?
[you did ask for editorial comments...]
Does it look like the A-40 prototype?
[you did ask for editorial comments...]
Does it look like the A-40 prototype?
Hi Nelson,
Even if I fully understand you saying I grew tired of telling the readers how wonderful it sounds. . . ., I do not want to see you saying so.
Nobody listening to you . . .?
Sadly, among other things, I know there are few people who praise that mine has wonderful or better than the other, just by nothing but writing ill of the other’s name. Your projects are sometimes things offered in such sacrifice. It means that yours are elegant and wonderful to their jealous minds.
You are different from them. I have never seen that you are comparing yours with others to the public. Nevertheless, I have seen that many audio diyers love your projects and build lot.
Regards
jH
Even if I fully understand you saying I grew tired of telling the readers how wonderful it sounds. . . ., I do not want to see you saying so.
Nobody listening to you . . .?
Sadly, among other things, I know there are few people who praise that mine has wonderful or better than the other, just by nothing but writing ill of the other’s name. Your projects are sometimes things offered in such sacrifice. It means that yours are elegant and wonderful to their jealous minds.
You are different from them. I have never seen that you are comparing yours with others to the public. Nevertheless, I have seen that many audio diyers love your projects and build lot.
Regards
jH
Some years ago I drew a circuit quite similar to that one but with BJTs, but I thought it would never work so I didn´t bother to try it out. Feels like I have to build this one some day.
I was just about to download the datasheet for the IRF244 and found it is now obsolete. I guess it may be still available for now.
http://ec.irf.com/v6/en/US/adirect/ir?cmd=catSearchFrame&domSendTo=byID&domProductQueryName=irf244
You think they would give a suggested replacement for idiot's like me who don't have a clue.
Anyone have the pdf?
Thanks
http://ec.irf.com/v6/en/US/adirect/ir?cmd=catSearchFrame&domSendTo=byID&domProductQueryName=irf244
You think they would give a suggested replacement for idiot's like me who don't have a clue.

Anyone have the pdf?
Thanks
Hi, JH,
It seems you got another homework 😀
I would say, you have to finish this homework, because this is T H E homework.
Mr. Pass,
I'm confused. With this quality of "homework", you should be able to make commercial product from it (another FirstWatt maybe?), but you decided to put it as DIY project?
It seems you got another homework 😀
I would say, you have to finish this homework, because this is T H E homework.
Mr. Pass,
I'm confused. With this quality of "homework", you should be able to make commercial product from it (another FirstWatt maybe?), but you decided to put it as DIY project?
Hi Nelson,
On page 7 I read “ P1, R6 and C4 form a filter to take out power supply noise..." On the schematic (Fig. 8) it is C5?
Thank you very much for publishing the article. I was not expecting that for at least a couple of weeks. In fact, I expected that you'll publish only the simplified schematic, and a User manual. I also thought this was going to be another Firstwatt product...But you surprised all of us.
Shall we dare to think what's gonna be next? I wouldn't, not before I try this one🙂
Thank you!
Vix
On page 7 I read “ P1, R6 and C4 form a filter to take out power supply noise..." On the schematic (Fig. 8) it is C5?
Thank you very much for publishing the article. I was not expecting that for at least a couple of weeks. In fact, I expected that you'll publish only the simplified schematic, and a User manual. I also thought this was going to be another Firstwatt product...But you surprised all of us.
Shall we dare to think what's gonna be next? I wouldn't, not before I try this one🙂
Thank you!
Vix
Greg Erskine said:I was just about to download the datasheet for the IRF244 and found it is now obsolete. I guess it may be still available for now.
http://ec.irf.com/v6/en/US/adirect/ir?cmd=catSearchFrame&domSendTo=byID&domProductQueryName=irf244
You think they would give a suggested replacement for idiot's like me who don't have a clue.
Anyone have the pdf?
Thanks
IRFP244
Magura 🙂
You could probably use IRFP150, IRFP140, IRFP240, IRFP250, IRFP3710, IRFP054 too name a few. I dont think its very important, but you will get better specs with lower voltage rating and higher transconductance. Read the early papers on the Zen. Mr Pass writes a lot about the devices there.I was just about to download the datasheet for the IRF244 and found it is now obsolete. I guess it may be still available for now.
http://ec.irf.com/v6/en/US/adirect/...ueryName=irf244
You think they would give a suggested replacement for idiot's like me who don't have a clue.
If I could get some of them the IRFP044 or 054 would be my choice.
Hi Lumanauw,
He is a bad teacher, and I am a bad student too. 😀
I'm too busy in enjoying F1/J-Low. No time to do THE homework.
You know? I used to threat my class mates do my homework.
This time you are, Lumanauweeeeeeeeeeee!
I will give you choco candies after you finish my homework.
Regards
jH
He is a bad teacher, and I am a bad student too. 😀
I'm too busy in enjoying F1/J-Low. No time to do THE homework.
You know? I used to threat my class mates do my homework.
This time you are, Lumanauweeeeeeeeeeee!
I will give you choco candies after you finish my homework.
Regards
jH
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