Hi fellow members,
This is Tom From Wells, MN. A friend of mine brought me over the speakers mentioned in the title. Said he bought them at a yard sale but they don't sound right. I check the crossovers of both of them and they are both partially disconnected. Does anyone know how these are supposed to be wired up? All they have on them is MF-, MF+, LF-, HF+, and HF- the model number on the crossover is 350-FS51-2.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Tom S.
Wells, MN
This is Tom From Wells, MN. A friend of mine brought me over the speakers mentioned in the title. Said he bought them at a yard sale but they don't sound right. I check the crossovers of both of them and they are both partially disconnected. Does anyone know how these are supposed to be wired up? All they have on them is MF-, MF+, LF-, HF+, and HF- the model number on the crossover is 350-FS51-2.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Tom S.
Wells, MN
By Andrew Jones...
The PIONEER (Andrew Jones) Speaker Thread - Officially - Blu-ray Forum
In case you need some tweeters:
https://commonmanshometheater.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/pioneer-tower-tweeter-replacement-sp-fs51-lr/
You might get the usual connectors for; input +/-, then woofers +/- (LF-, LF+), mids +/- (MF-, MF+), and tweeters +/- (HF+, and HF-). Usually + is red, unless it states different like some JBL's. This is your starting (standard) point. From here you can have some commons (connectors) like ground or (-).
The PIONEER (Andrew Jones) Speaker Thread - Officially - Blu-ray Forum
In case you need some tweeters:
https://commonmanshometheater.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/pioneer-tower-tweeter-replacement-sp-fs51-lr/
You might get the usual connectors for; input +/-, then woofers +/- (LF-, LF+), mids +/- (MF-, MF+), and tweeters +/- (HF+, and HF-). Usually + is red, unless it states different like some JBL's. This is your starting (standard) point. From here you can have some commons (connectors) like ground or (-).
Like most commercial speakers, the crossover looks simplistic and cheap.
With well-behaved drivers you can get away with this.
This is the simpler two way Pioneer SP BS21 (What could BS stand for? Yup... ) version of your speaker.
Doesn't look hard to me, but I'd still need to see the wiring diagram aka schematic to be sure how to wire it up and get polarity on the drivers right.
See, it's a bit like asking what order you connect the spark plugs in a car engine. I'd have to see it to advise.
With well-behaved drivers you can get away with this.
This is the simpler two way Pioneer SP BS21 (What could BS stand for? Yup... ) version of your speaker.
Doesn't look hard to me, but I'd still need to see the wiring diagram aka schematic to be sure how to wire it up and get polarity on the drivers right.
See, it's a bit like asking what order you connect the spark plugs in a car engine. I'd have to see it to advise.
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BTW, if I had to guess what Pioneer did here, given that this is some commercial rubbish 2.5 way speaker designed to sell to people with cloth ears, it might be wired like below.
Sorry to rant. I just hate what commercial companies do to our beautiful and precise art.
Sorry to rant. I just hate what commercial companies do to our beautiful and precise art.
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Just to let you guys know that I got it working. It sounds good except for the Pyle PDMW5's which are mid woofers. I am wondering if that is the reason for the resistor and the capacitor to filter the high's and lows better. It seems that frequencies form the HF on the crossover are too high and making them crackle.
I think you really need to post some photos if you want to make progress with this. AFAIK, the tweeter is easily replaced with the Goldwood GT520 tweeter unit Inductor pointed out.
What the Pyle woofers are doing here, I have no idea. This speaker sounds like it has had a rough repair. A wiring diagram that might work is below. The W130s are woofers. The G20SC is a tweeter. it gets a capacitor to protect it from bass and a resistor to drop the level.
I might suspect the Pioneer original woofers are 4 ohm units. Depends how they are wired really.
What the Pyle woofers are doing here, I have no idea. This speaker sounds like it has had a rough repair. A wiring diagram that might work is below. The W130s are woofers. The G20SC is a tweeter. it gets a capacitor to protect it from bass and a resistor to drop the level.
I might suspect the Pioneer original woofers are 4 ohm units. Depends how they are wired really.
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