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Perfect sine wave.

Will there always be a perfect sine wave at the red dot if everything else is perfect? 🤔

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Funny question 'if everything else is perfect'. What everything else?
There is distortion all over the place.
The distorted waveform from the 1st tube anode (why doesn't anybody label tubes anymore?) is processed by the 2nd and 3rd tube.
They will add their own distortion. If you're hoping for cancellation, that is never perfect.

Where's the feedback point connected to?

Jan
 
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This is the waveform I get at the cathode of the 12BH7.
I think if you check the other one, you'll see the negative part of the sine wave. Class AB and all that.
How does the output look?

What bias is unstable?

No disrespect meant but I feel that there's a gap between the complexity of this circuit and your technical expertise. Are you sure this is a good project for you?

Jan
 
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No disrespect meant but I feel that there's a gap between the complexity of this circuit and your technical expertise. Are you sure this is a good project for you?

Jan
Oh... absolutely correct. That's why I hoped for some help from the diyaudio community, but I also acknowledge that one can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. So maybe it`s better to go back to a "simpler" design.
 
Personally I get a lot of joy working with a circuit I understand, and that I can 'play' with and know how to change this or that to get it such and so.
There's no fun in groping around in the dark.
The other thing is that getting to the point that you can run a marathon requires to start with lots of shorter runs several times a week.
Marathon runners are not born, they build themselves.
Just as savvy electronics designers.
YMMV

Jan
 
Personally I get a lot of joy working with a circuit I understand, and that I can 'play' with and know how to change this or that to get it such and so.
There's no fun in groping around in the dark.
The other thing is that getting to the point that you can run a marathon requires to start with lots of shorter runs several times a week.
Marathon runners are not born, they build themselves.
Just as savvy electronics designers.
YMMV

Jan
The design is from Max Robinson`s web site. Its original design is made by Tim E. Smith but uses 12AY7 and 8CG7 as input and driver. Then reworked a bit by Max Robinson.
I made mine with EF86 and 12BH7 and sent it to Max Robinson and he approved. Said this could work very well. And it did, for 6 months. Tried all new tubes, changed some components, etc, but no, still wont work. Thought about transformers but they cannot both malfunction at the same time.
 
The design is from Max Robinson`s web site. Its original design is made by Tim E. Smith but uses 12AY7 and 8CG7 as input and driver. Then reworked a bit by Max Robinson.
I made mine with EF86 and 12BH7 and sent it to Max Robinson and he approved. Said this could work very well. And it did, for 6 months. Tried all new tubes, changed some components, etc, but no, still wont work. Thought about transformers but they cannot both malfunction at the same time.
Well, if it stopped working, what are the symptoms? Did it just not power up, are both channels dead, do the tubes light up, did you check the fuse?

Think about going to a doctor saying 'I don't feel well'. First thing he does is asking all kinds of questions trying to find out what's wrong with you, if anything.
It's an advanced technique called 'diagnosing'; but it seems to have fallen in disgrace with audio people.

Jan
 
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Your schematic in post#5 shows DC voltages. Are these actually measured, or just design center (hoped for)? A pentode loaded by a constant current source is inherently twitchy for idling conditions, and your 12BH7 clipping sure looks like its DC voltages are way wrong. The actual DC voltage at their common cathodes is the first thing to tell us.

Did this ever work, or is it suddenly broken? Important details missing.

All good fortune,
Chris