ShinOBIWAN said:
Agreed Al, the Seas looks a bit girly in comparison.
I was thinking the very same thing - though in a bit more politically incorrect "pointed-gender" fashion.. (here kitty, kitty).😀
Ah, all the "Awareness" training my employer keeps sending me on must be doing some good then for this, as was, unreconstructed Northener. 😉
thylantyr said:fuggggggg... driver magnets on top of paint ............![]()
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Not to worry, that cabinet in the shot is junk and the last remnant of the perceive v1, the rest was burned on bonfire night but I couldn't fit that last bit in the car.
But as it goes there isn't a mark on there thanks to around 4 months of hardening and 2k clearcoat.
Drivers for the sub arrived today.
2 x 15" Volt R3863.
Definitely got a very British studio flavour going on now with the ATC's and the Volts 🙂
Again, I still haven't fully finished the v2's but I'm working on the cabinet design for the Volts right now so when the time comes I'll be ready. God I hate the British weather! 🙁
2 x 15" Volt R3863.
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Definitely got a very British studio flavour going on now with the ATC's and the Volts 🙂
Again, I still haven't fully finished the v2's but I'm working on the cabinet design for the Volts right now so when the time comes I'll be ready. God I hate the British weather! 🙁
How many of these drivers are you using and what kind of alignment? Are you making one sub or stereo subs? Very interesting design on those drivers, they look really well built (is that the spider in FRONT of the cone?).
m0tion said:[ Very interesting design on those drivers, they look really well built (is that the spider in FRONT of the cone?). [/B]
yah, and the basket too!😀
m0tion said:How many of these drivers are you using and what kind of alignment? Are you making one sub or stereo subs? Very interesting design on those drivers, they look really well built (is that the spider in FRONT of the cone?).
Hi motion,
I've got just two of the Volt Radials and each is 15". I'll be using stereo subs to augment the mains and each of these subs will feature just a single 15" Volt Radial. Alignment is floating between sealed Linkwitz Transform and ported - I really think I'll have to build one of each to get a complete picture.
The design is interesting, the entire basket is moved to the front of the cone and actually has dual spiders: one in front and one behind. The radial style basket design is actually an effort to more effectively cool the VC and prevent compression and TS parameters from deviating under loads.
I've actually owned this particular model of Volt bass driver a year or so ago where it performed subwoofer duties. The quality of the bass was quite incredible but the xmax is relatively small. The upshot is higher efficiency at 94dB. These designs don't go incredibly low either so flat to 20hz is my revised and realistic goal. This was a compromise between outright quality, musicality and realism vs. depth and SPL.
They also need quite large boxes at around 100-150ltrs to perform best and another reason why I didn't go with 2 per sub as the cabinets would be rather large 300ltr efforts.
ShinOBIWAN said:
Hi motion,
I've got just two of the Volt Radials and each is 15". I'll be using stereo subs to augment the mains and each of these subs will feature just a single 15" Volt Radial. Alignment is floating between sealed Linkwitz Transform and ported - I really think I'll have to build one of each to get a complete picture.
The design is interesting, the entire basket is moved to the front of the cone and actually has dual spiders: one in front and one behind. The radial style basket design is actually an effort to more effectively cool the VC and prevent compression and TS parameters from deviating under loads.
I've actually owned this particular model of Volt bass driver a year or so ago where it performed subwoofer duties. The quality of the bass was quite incredible but the xmax is relatively small. The upshot is higher efficiency at 94dB. These designs don't go incredibly low either so flat to 20hz is my revised and realistic goal. This was a compromise between outright quality, musicality and realism vs. depth and SPL.
They also need quite large boxes at around 100-150ltrs to perform best and another reason why I didn't go with 2 per sub as the cabinets would be rather large 300ltr efforts.
If you're going with a box that big, this may interest you:
http://member.newsguy.com/~stigerik/almighty/index.html
Sheldon
Sheldon said:
If you're going with a box that big, this may interest you:
http://member.newsguy.com/~stigerik/almighty/index.html
Sheldon
Shame I've already bought the Volts because I imagine the JBL 2226 is a great driver.
Maybe next time.
Those Volts remind me of the Celestion AD12 which have a similar looking cone material, very sensitive, low qts, short xmax, but superb sound quality. Drivers in this category always tend to sound impressive.I've actually owned this particular model of Volt bass driver a year or so ago where it performed subwoofer duties. The quality of the bass was quite incredible but the xmax is relatively small.
I've got a pair lying around that I've never known what to do with.
JBL 2226H is a good driver for sub duty. I have a pair of them in JBL designed cinema use bins. I also have a pair of 15" Volts to try out. Unfortunately they wont physically fit in the JBL boxes.
Vikash said:I've got a pair lying around that I've never known what to do with.
Well, if they need a good home... 😉
ShinOBIWAN said:
Shame I've already bought the Volts because I imagine the JBL 2226 is a great driver.
Maybe next time.
I wasn't second guessing your driver choice. I'm sure they sound great, and they look tres cool. I just thought he did a good job documenting the enclosure.
Sheldon
Finished the AKSA 55N+
I've had them up and running for about a week now and I must say they sound superb. I'm not one for really placing much faith in noticing great differences between electronics but I'm finally starting to come around to the idea after listening to these. The improvements are undeniable and unsubtle. Wonderfully cohesive and musical sound to these amps. Really add an extra notch of realism to the performance. The highs in particular seem much smoother that I'm acustom to after comming from Rod's ESP101's and Parasound amplification. Its still very detailed and with possibly more 'atmostphere' or 'air' but doesn't force itself on you like the others did, like I said before this is one extremely natural amp.
Possibly the best amp I've heard full stop or at the very least its the best I've had on the end of the Perceives that's for sure. Overall I couldn't be happier with them and they've taken the speakers up yet another notch or two.
Been deliberating over whether to use some 4u rack mount cases for the amps or redo the bases of the speakers to incorporate the amps like so:
Any thoughts?
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I've had them up and running for about a week now and I must say they sound superb. I'm not one for really placing much faith in noticing great differences between electronics but I'm finally starting to come around to the idea after listening to these. The improvements are undeniable and unsubtle. Wonderfully cohesive and musical sound to these amps. Really add an extra notch of realism to the performance. The highs in particular seem much smoother that I'm acustom to after comming from Rod's ESP101's and Parasound amplification. Its still very detailed and with possibly more 'atmostphere' or 'air' but doesn't force itself on you like the others did, like I said before this is one extremely natural amp.
Possibly the best amp I've heard full stop or at the very least its the best I've had on the end of the Perceives that's for sure. Overall I couldn't be happier with them and they've taken the speakers up yet another notch or two.
Been deliberating over whether to use some 4u rack mount cases for the amps or redo the bases of the speakers to incorporate the amps like so:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Any thoughts?
Into very subjective territory here, but I'm not liking the look of that plinth. Not a fan of the pole that props it up either. Perhaps try modelling a a sheet of wood perpendicular to the rear to prop it up, or maybe clear acrylic so as to take focus of the prop and leave it on those beautiful enclosures.ShinOBIWAN said:Any thoughts?
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