PCB and Trans GB for UGS and the "All inclusive" Variant [DEADLINE : Feb,16th 2008]

[paudux]

Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL + 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards, USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal

 

[vmoreau]

Dear all,

We have formaly merged the 2 GBs on the french HCFR forum for the PCBs !
So I hope everything is clear now.

About the request from the diyaudio members (private mails from the UGS Adventures thread or this thread), I have just compiled all the demands on an excel file,

would you have a check on the attached screen snapshot and let me know if everything is fine with your data ?

Please modify the ongoing list to make changes if needed.

Including HCFR and DIYAUDIO demands, we are currently counting
- 43 PCB sets
- 164 UGS modules PCBs
- 104 simple Power Supply

For the Jfets, I'll go back to serjac on HCFR to include your demands.

Regards

 

[Stones]

Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL + 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards, USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal

 

[steenoe]

Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL + 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards, USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
Steenoe: 8 x UGS pcb, 8 x power supply pcb, DK, Paypal

 

[Manu]

C'est quoi une LDCourses ?
)

C'est une BOM!
🙂
manu

 

[jacco vermeulen]

Mille balles sur le cheval Bleu, Chef.

 

[Landoctor]

Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL + 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards, USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
Steenoe: 8 x UGS pcb, 8 x power supply pcb, DK, Paypal
Landoctor: 2x Complete Kits + 4 UGS PCB + 2 PSU PCB's, USA, Paypal

 

[Manu]

Mille balles sur le cheval Bleu, Chef.

Moi aussi je mise sur ce canasson-là 😉

(Décidément, on ne te la fait pas...)

Ton pote Manu

 

[jacco vermeulen]

si Bleu

 

[gary s]

Post #27
Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL + 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards, USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
Steenoe: 8 x UGS pcb, 8 x power supply pcb, DK, Paypal
Landoctor: 2x Complete Kits + 4 UGS PCB + 2 PSU PCB's, USA, Paypal
gary s: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB and 4 x 2SJ109V. Australia - Paypal.

 

[gary s]

Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL + 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards, USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
Steenoe: 8 x UGS pcb, 8 x power supply pcb, DK, Paypal
Landoctor: 2x Complete Kits + 4 UGS PCB + 2 PSU PCB's, USA, Paypal
gary s: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB and 4 x 2SJ109V. Australia - Paypal.

Regards

Gary..

 

[vmoreau]

Important

Fees and Shipment

- No fees for direct wire bank transfer to my account (ask your bank for the price of this service + currency change)
- Paypal fees : 1.25€ + 3.4%


Shipment:

- shipment will cost between 4 to 7.20 euros (mass and zone dependent),
- I will ship the PCBs and the FETs together to save on shipment.
- Additional options are available like registered mail (5.30€ including a basic 45.73€ max insurance)
- extra insurance (4€ + 0.38€ per slice of 76.22€ of declared value, extra insurance only available with registered mail)

Regards

Vincent

 

[Daveze]

Post #31
Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL + 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards, USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
Steenoe: 8 x UGS pcb, 8 x power supply pcb, DK, Paypal
Landoctor: 2x Complete Kits + 4 UGS PCB + 2 PSU PCB's, USA, Paypal
gary s: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB and 4 x 2SJ109V. Australia - Paypal.
Daveze: 4 x UGS PCB, 4 x power supply PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V and 4 x 2SK389BL

 

[Yunick]

Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL + 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards, USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
Steenoe: 8 x UGS pcb, 8 x power supply pcb, DK, Paypal
Landoctor: 2x Complete Kits + 4 UGS PCB + 2 PSU PCB's, USA, Paypal
gary s: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB and 4 x 2SJ109V. Australia - Paypal.
Daveze: 4 x UGS PCB, 4 x power supply PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V and 4 x 2SK389BL
Yunick: 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V, Sweden, Paypal

 

[vmoreau]

Adding
+ CeeVee request (Jfets transfered form serjac list from HCFR)
+ Kaho (to be confirmed)
+ StoolPigeon (to be confirmed)
+ h_a (to be confirmed)


Yunick: 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V, Sweden, Paypal
Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards +4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL , USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
CeeVee : 2x complete kit, 6x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 2 x PCB_SubW, 10 x 2SK389BL, 10x 2SJ109V
Kaho : 1x complete kit, Finland
Landoctor: 2x Complete Kits + 4 UGS PCB + 2 PSU PCB's, USA, Paypal
Steenoe: 8 x UGS pcb, 8 x power supply pcb, DK, Paypal
Stoolpigeon: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB 6 x 2SK389BL ; 2 x 2SJ109V
h_a; 10 x 2SK389BL
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
gary s: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB and 4 x 2SJ109V. Australia - Paypal.
Daveze: 4 x UGS PCB, 4 x power supply PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V and 4 x 2SK389BL

 

[steenoe]

Yunick: 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V, Sweden, Paypal
Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards +4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL , USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
CeeVee : 2x complete kit, 6x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 2 x PCB_SubW, 10 x 2SK389BL, 10x 2SJ109V
Kaho : 1x complete kit, Finland
Landoctor: 2x Complete Kits + 4 UGS PCB + 2 PSU PCB's, USA, Paypal
Steenoe: 10 x UGS pcb, 10 x power supply pcb, DK, Paypal
Stoolpigeon: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB 6 x 2SK389BL ; 2 x 2SJ109V
h_a; 10 x 2SK389BL
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
gary s: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB and 4 x 2SJ109V. Australia - Paypal.
Daveze: 4 x UGS PCB, 4 x power supply PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V and 4 x 2SK389BL

Just adding a few more🙂

 

[schuhbu]

Yunick: 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V, Sweden, Paypal
Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards +4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL , USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
CeeVee : 2x complete kit, 6x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 2 x PCB_SubW, 10 x 2SK389BL, 10x 2SJ109V
Kaho : 1x complete kit, Finland
Landoctor: 2x Complete Kits + 4 UGS PCB + 2 PSU PCB's, USA, Paypal
Steenoe: 10 x UGS pcb, 10 x power supply pcb, DK, Paypal
Stoolpigeon: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB 6 x 2SK389BL ; 2 x 2SJ109V
h_a; 10 x 2SK389BL
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
gary s: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB and 4 x 2SJ109V. Australia - Paypal.
Daveze: 4 x UGS PCB, 4 x power supply PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V and 4 x 2SK389BL

So did I!

 

[WT]

Yunick: 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V, Sweden, Paypal
Jacco Vermeulen, 2 Complete Kits + 8 UGS PCBs, The Netherlands, Bank Transfer.
Toquito5000 : 2x PCB All Inclusive + 8x 2SJ109V, Indonesia, Bank Transfer.
chalkandtalk : 1x Complete Kits + 4x 2SJ109V + 4x 2SK389BL, England, Paypal
Cobra2 : 1x Complete Kits + 4x UGS, Norway, Paypal
niner: 6x UGS PCB + 12x 2SJ109V + 12x 2SK389BL, USA, PayPal
P. Lambda : 2x UGS pcb + 2x power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
pchw: 2 x UGS PCB + 2 Power Supply boards +4 x 2SJ109V + 6 x 2SK389BL , USA, Paypal
Valeriano: 1x Complete PCB kit, 4x Simple UGS PCB, 4x 2sj109v, Italy, Paypal
schuhbu: 1x Complete Kit, 2x Simple UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, Germany, PayPal
Sigurd Ruschkow, 10x UGS PCB, Sweden, PayPal
Luke: 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, New Zealand, PayPal
paudux: 1x complete kit, 2x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 6x 2SJ109V, New Zealand,Paypal
CeeVee : 2x complete kit, 6x UGS pcb, 2x power supply pcb, 2 x PCB_SubW, 10 x 2SK389BL, 10x 2SJ109V
Kaho : 1x complete kit, Finland
Landoctor: 2x Complete Kits + 4 UGS PCB + 2 PSU PCB's, USA, Paypal
Steenoe: 10 x UGS pcb, 10 x power supply pcb, DK, Paypal
Stoolpigeon: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB 6 x 2SK389BL ; 2 x 2SJ109V
h_a; 10 x 2SK389BL
Stones: 2X UGS pcb, 2X power supply pcb, USA, PayPal
gary s: 2 x UGS PCB, 2 x power supply PCB and 4 x 2SJ109V. Australia - Paypal.
Daveze: 4 x UGS PCB, 4 x power supply PCB, 4 x 2SJ109V and 4 x 2SK389BL
WT : 1x complete Kits + 2 UGS PCB + 2 PSU PCB's + 2 x 2sk389BL + 6 x 2sj109V, Thailand, Paypal.

Thanks so much for doing this groupbuy.

P.S. be careful on Bank transfer. It's happen to me twice that there are hidden cost of Bank transfer. Several time the local bank that don't know that until it happen.

 

[vmoreau]

Hello WT,

about bank transfer hidden costs : do you mean for the sender or the consignee ?


Regards

 

[WT]

Last bank transfer that I did happen last year that I transfer money from Bangkok to US. I specific my bank that I will pay for the fee. However, it end up money transfer was short for about US$15-20 something. I do not remember exact number.

It seem that the money go from Bangkok to New York and then from New York to the local bank. The Bank in New York act as middle man and charge some fee for transfer the money.

So, I have to find US$20 bill and put it in envelop and send it over again to cover the cost.

So I just want to remind you that this thing can happen and hope you don't have any problem from doing such a nice thing on this group buy.

Banking process can be very complicate and the value of our money that being transfer is very small in banking point of view. Paypal fee seem more reasonable and much easy for our transaction. Just my 2C.