I have been getting a few Japanese re-mastered albums that are done in 20 and 24bit.
I was wondering if standard CD players can output that resolution though their digital outputs to a stand alone DAC to be converted.
Or would they only read it at 16bits, essentially down-converting it before outputting it though its digital out?
If that is the case, would a DVD Audio player be needed to read these re-mastered albums at their full 20 and 24 bit resolution?
I was wondering if standard CD players can output that resolution though their digital outputs to a stand alone DAC to be converted.
Or would they only read it at 16bits, essentially down-converting it before outputting it though its digital out?
If that is the case, would a DVD Audio player be needed to read these re-mastered albums at their full 20 and 24 bit resolution?
Hi lotuss79,
you have to convert your files to 44,1 KHz and 16 Bit if you wnt to play them on a normal CD Player. If your player is able to playback DVD-Audio you can use for example a DVD authoring program like Cirlinca's Solo to write yor 24 Bit files on a DVD. But I think your Player will only use the internal DAC to output a analog signal and for copyright reasons you will not get the digital high resolution stream on your SPDIF.
But there are solutions for this handicap. One example is here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48393&highlight=oelrich
you have to convert your files to 44,1 KHz and 16 Bit if you wnt to play them on a normal CD Player. If your player is able to playback DVD-Audio you can use for example a DVD authoring program like Cirlinca's Solo to write yor 24 Bit files on a DVD. But I think your Player will only use the internal DAC to output a analog signal and for copyright reasons you will not get the digital high resolution stream on your SPDIF.
But there are solutions for this handicap. One example is here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48393&highlight=oelrich
Thanks Tranceformer,
Maybe i will try going through a hard disk drive/music server. That might be the simplest way to output 24bit audio to my DAC.
Maybe i will try going through a hard disk drive/music server. That might be the simplest way to output 24bit audio to my DAC.
Yes, I think thats the way to go. Do you want to build your own player or do you plan to buy a hard disk player?
Not all "Mediaplayer's" are able to play 24/96 audio. Even when they play the files some units do an internal conversion to 16Bit before they stream it to SPDIF, and I am sure this is not what you want.
Not all "Mediaplayer's" are able to play 24/96 audio. Even when they play the files some units do an internal conversion to 16Bit before they stream it to SPDIF, and I am sure this is not what you want.
Thats a good point. I would have liked to go with iTunes, but i dont believe they support 24bit. Ill have to look into that.
All 24-bit remaster means is that when they EQed and whatever else to the file, they did it at 24-bit. Then they convert the mastered files to 16-bit with dither for the CD. A regular CD player will do just fine.
The only way to get the equivalent of 20 bit resolution on a regular CD it is HDCD. In Asia, the format it is more popular than in the rest of the world.
Eh I still think it's 16-bits.
If you want to get that 20-bit trick try ripping regular CDs with Exact Audio Copy, converting them to 24-bit and then running them through an expander like Waves C4 (UNCompressor preset -13dB). Imho s process like this which is done at 48-bit or 64-bit floating point DSP will usually beat out any HDCD player.
If you want to get that 20-bit trick try ripping regular CDs with Exact Audio Copy, converting them to 24-bit and then running them through an expander like Waves C4 (UNCompressor preset -13dB). Imho s process like this which is done at 48-bit or 64-bit floating point DSP will usually beat out any HDCD player.
standard 75ohm coax cable can not transfer 24bits digital audio - you will have to use balanced 110ohm professional link.
Boky
Boky
It doesn't say that it's not possible, just that it was "optional" at the time when the article was written. Today, there are devices capable of 24 bit 192kHz over SPDIF.Extreme_Boky said:
Key said:
No, it won't... The information truncated at the recording cannot be retrieved. It's like saying that processing mp3's via a 64bit DSP you will get a better signal than the original CD.
Well, good luck using 0.5V encoding of your 24/192 signal. You may even be lucky and have an isolation transformer or 2... but you will not find equipment accepting 75 onm coax / RCA that will convert (whatever left....) from coax-to-TTL.
Boky
Boky
Key said:
I think we are talking about real high resolution files downloaded as a 24Bit WAV or FLAC file and not about remastered CD's in 16Bit format?
Extreme_Boky said:
The 75ohm cable is no problem. My System i transfering 24Bits with 192KHz on the SPDIF without problems.
Well if I had to put my money on statistics I would say we are talking about "24-bit remasters". Which if they are on a CD-DA are 16-bit.
If he is talking about an HDAD or whatever they are calling them now there are a handful of them on DVD-A in 192 24-bit. And some in 96kHz 24-bit which could be ripped and downloaded. There are a lot of SACDs too but the copy protection on those has prevented "ripping" to date. Simple enough to get around some people just re-record the DSD to PCM at 96 or 192 24-bit. The Cannonball Aderly 192kHz sounds great.
Anyway I have a ton of "24-bit remaster" CDs ripped to my hard drives. I can assure you they are all 16-bit.
If he is talking about an HDAD or whatever they are calling them now there are a handful of them on DVD-A in 192 24-bit. And some in 96kHz 24-bit which could be ripped and downloaded. There are a lot of SACDs too but the copy protection on those has prevented "ripping" to date. Simple enough to get around some people just re-record the DSD to PCM at 96 or 192 24-bit. The Cannonball Aderly 192kHz sounds great.
Anyway I have a ton of "24-bit remaster" CDs ripped to my hard drives. I can assure you they are all 16-bit.
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