The lower drawers are going to be mostly larger, heavier items like transformers, controls, and hardware.
I'm 6ft 3in tall, my limit is a lot higher than 3ft, even now.
I figured out years ago that if I wanted to get rid of something that the trash won't take you just put a for sale sign on it and leave it out over night, it'll be gone in the morning.
If not, I've got a backhoe..
The items that I'll need to really scrutinize are the large jars of used parts. There are thousands of bridge rectifiers, transistors, inductor coils, variable capacitors from radios, and knobs that he saved.
I'm 6ft 3in tall, my limit is a lot higher than 3ft, even now.
I figured out years ago that if I wanted to get rid of something that the trash won't take you just put a for sale sign on it and leave it out over night, it'll be gone in the morning.
If not, I've got a backhoe..
The items that I'll need to really scrutinize are the large jars of used parts. There are thousands of bridge rectifiers, transistors, inductor coils, variable capacitors from radios, and knobs that he saved.
Two weeks into this mess and I'm finally, maybe done finding and sorting through all the 1/4 to 1w carbon and metal film resistors. I sorted but only boxed the carbon composite resistors for now, which amounted to about 40 lbs or so of them.
I bought a roll of 5x3" plastic bags and am nearly through a full roll. The good part is that in the larger cabinets, in bags, they take up a fraction of the room they did in all the small drawers. So far I eliminated about 25 of those small cabinets.
What I did for the resistors was to make up small bags of 150 count for each value and organized them in one cabinet going from low to high with four sections per drawer, each with a set range. It gave me 16 large drawers of 1/4 watt resistors. The 1/2 watt assortment didn't cover as many sizes so they took only 4 drawers. Larger resistors will be set up in four more drawers at below those.
I also got through most of the non-electrolytic capacitors, which took 20 drawers as well. The electrolytics may stay their own cabinet on the bench, as will the smaller value caps that would be too easily lost in the larger drawers.
Next is the transistors. Right now the few that are in the larger cabinet are grouped as either NPN or PNP in any one drawer, but not by part number.
Its made sorting them so far a real pain. I also am finding far more part numbers than I had first thought. I'm up to about 550 p/n's so far in just the tiny transistors, not counting the TO-3 and TO-220 types, triacs, or voltage regulators.
What I'd like to do is to sort them all in sequential order by part number, at least those that carry a 2NXXXX type number. There's a good many RCA branded or other p/n's too. The majority though are Motorola or Texas Instruments branded.
I've also been bagging and tagging all the diodes and bridge rectifiers, so far the diodes alone are up to four large drawers, and I'll likely need to add four more for just diodes. That will mean moving all or any of the op-amps or IC's out of the larger drawers into their own smaller cabinet. Which may make more sense as each p/n is less numerous than other components. So far I've filled one 60 drawer cabinets with just IC's, mostly all computer or CMOS chips. Some dating back to the mid 70's. I also found a good many early PC processors from the 80's.
After all this so far, I've still not tackled the large tubs, which appear to be mostly capacitors, transformers, and supplies. There's one whole 30 gallon Rubbermaid tub full of orange Sprague caps, another full of white and aluminum Mallory caps, and one with a mix of Panasonic and Rubycon caps.
The few I grabbed and tested seemed fine, but that's to be determined. Their age varies. The whole lot ranges from the late 1940's to about 20010 or so judging by the receipts I found.
The receipts are mostly from Mouser, Digikey, Reynolds, Motorola, and Radio Shack Industrial. (I never knew Radio Shack had a bulk supply line). The RS receipts range from 1980 to 1997 or so. The Mouser receipts range from 1951 to 2009, and Digikey mostly in the 80's and 90's.
He saved everything, but the receipts are often not all itemized. He bought bulk lots of things, all huge quantities.
It makes no sense to me why because he was pretty much just a home tinkerer, I'm pretty sure he was a teacher by trade. The electronics were just a hobby.
There's also a lot of items here that I can't ID at all, small coils, inverter transformers, small titanium parts, massive amounts of small stainless screws ranging from #12 down to micron sized screws too small to handle without tweezers.
So far though my biggest amazement is in the shear quantities of certain small transistors. To put this in perspective, a 5oz Dixie cup holds about 2,500 2N5457 transistors, how many are in a cardboard barrel the size of a bar stool that's filled to the top. Then figure there's 12 barrels of 11 other part numbers. I'd venture to guess that most suppliers wouldn't keep that number in stock, let alone a guy who worked out of his house. Even one 4x12" drawer full of any one p/n would be far more than a lifetime supply for most shops, let alone one guy who at best tinkered with a few items per week or month. I did not find the barrels on any of the receipts but did find a crude inventory that included them in 1988. Then there's the small plastic box assortments which hold about 6 p/n's each in about a 9x12" box. There are over 60 of those assortments, many never opened. Some have sat so long the plastic has turned brittle. Many of the trays have the Motorola logo right in the plastic. The numbers in large quantities so far are 2N5457, 2N5460, 2N5458, 2N5459, 2N3904, 2N3906, 2N2222, 2N5756, 2N5758, and about 10 or so other p/n's. The rest are mostly in 500 to 1,500 quantities. The same with a handful of resistor values, some are far more numerous than others. for some reason he had a shoe box size box full of 3.9m 1/4w resistors and rolls of 5,250 180 ohm 1w metal film resistors.
There's also a good many solderless connectors in the lot, but nothing common, all are odd styles, including a few in military bags which are marked 'platinum', as well as two boxes of neon dash indicators for various military aircraft. There's also several Aircraft radios in the lot, but all are older, nothing newer than than the early 70's, a few from the 30's and 40's as well. One tub is full of military aircraft dash gauges. The 9 330 yd rolls of various diameter heat shrink tubing will certainly come in handy though.
My original plan of going through all this in a few days is long past and out the window, its looking like a year long project now that will tie up my garage, basement, two spare rooms, and two trailers and my camper for the duration. I don't want to just pack it all away not knowing what all is here because it'll just sit. I want to clear out the useless items and sell off the large quantity items and knock it all down to a manageable size somehow.
The amount it will save me by not having to special order things a handful at a time will no doubt pay off over the years to come.
What bugs me though is that after I had already gotten the first lot of stuff here, I still found myself ordering parts because I simply couldn't find anyting in all the boxes that were at the time still packed in the trailer. As found it would fill a 53ft tractor/trailer box and maybe then some. It needs to get down to a lot that takes up no more than a few shelves in the house and maybe one wall in the basement or garage.
I did clean out two of these larger bins that he had, most were full of used items, but he saved everything, good or bad. The bright green one was full of old wax capacitors and used tube sockets.
The light gray cabinet is full of electrolytic caps, large wire wound resistors, and large switches. The four Akron boxes are full of small hardware and weigh in at well over a 100lbs each. There are thirty of these cabinets in all but only enough good drawers to for about 20 of them and a few of them are pretty well battered from either being overloaded or dropped. The goal is to make up four good stacks of them 5 boxes tall each, on wheels. so they can be moved easily.
The metal cabinets will stay in the garage or basement for used parts or other items. I see no good reason to use them for small parts, nor do I intend to save that much stuff here.
There are two of the green cabinets, and five of the gray cabinets. Each of them were in the guy's basement when I found them.
As i go through all this stuff I only wish it were more audio oriented, but most of it is rather generic.
In the end though, there was no way I could refuse it for free.
I bought a roll of 5x3" plastic bags and am nearly through a full roll. The good part is that in the larger cabinets, in bags, they take up a fraction of the room they did in all the small drawers. So far I eliminated about 25 of those small cabinets.
What I did for the resistors was to make up small bags of 150 count for each value and organized them in one cabinet going from low to high with four sections per drawer, each with a set range. It gave me 16 large drawers of 1/4 watt resistors. The 1/2 watt assortment didn't cover as many sizes so they took only 4 drawers. Larger resistors will be set up in four more drawers at below those.
I also got through most of the non-electrolytic capacitors, which took 20 drawers as well. The electrolytics may stay their own cabinet on the bench, as will the smaller value caps that would be too easily lost in the larger drawers.
Next is the transistors. Right now the few that are in the larger cabinet are grouped as either NPN or PNP in any one drawer, but not by part number.
Its made sorting them so far a real pain. I also am finding far more part numbers than I had first thought. I'm up to about 550 p/n's so far in just the tiny transistors, not counting the TO-3 and TO-220 types, triacs, or voltage regulators.
What I'd like to do is to sort them all in sequential order by part number, at least those that carry a 2NXXXX type number. There's a good many RCA branded or other p/n's too. The majority though are Motorola or Texas Instruments branded.
I've also been bagging and tagging all the diodes and bridge rectifiers, so far the diodes alone are up to four large drawers, and I'll likely need to add four more for just diodes. That will mean moving all or any of the op-amps or IC's out of the larger drawers into their own smaller cabinet. Which may make more sense as each p/n is less numerous than other components. So far I've filled one 60 drawer cabinets with just IC's, mostly all computer or CMOS chips. Some dating back to the mid 70's. I also found a good many early PC processors from the 80's.
After all this so far, I've still not tackled the large tubs, which appear to be mostly capacitors, transformers, and supplies. There's one whole 30 gallon Rubbermaid tub full of orange Sprague caps, another full of white and aluminum Mallory caps, and one with a mix of Panasonic and Rubycon caps.
The few I grabbed and tested seemed fine, but that's to be determined. Their age varies. The whole lot ranges from the late 1940's to about 20010 or so judging by the receipts I found.
The receipts are mostly from Mouser, Digikey, Reynolds, Motorola, and Radio Shack Industrial. (I never knew Radio Shack had a bulk supply line). The RS receipts range from 1980 to 1997 or so. The Mouser receipts range from 1951 to 2009, and Digikey mostly in the 80's and 90's.
He saved everything, but the receipts are often not all itemized. He bought bulk lots of things, all huge quantities.
It makes no sense to me why because he was pretty much just a home tinkerer, I'm pretty sure he was a teacher by trade. The electronics were just a hobby.
There's also a lot of items here that I can't ID at all, small coils, inverter transformers, small titanium parts, massive amounts of small stainless screws ranging from #12 down to micron sized screws too small to handle without tweezers.
So far though my biggest amazement is in the shear quantities of certain small transistors. To put this in perspective, a 5oz Dixie cup holds about 2,500 2N5457 transistors, how many are in a cardboard barrel the size of a bar stool that's filled to the top. Then figure there's 12 barrels of 11 other part numbers. I'd venture to guess that most suppliers wouldn't keep that number in stock, let alone a guy who worked out of his house. Even one 4x12" drawer full of any one p/n would be far more than a lifetime supply for most shops, let alone one guy who at best tinkered with a few items per week or month. I did not find the barrels on any of the receipts but did find a crude inventory that included them in 1988. Then there's the small plastic box assortments which hold about 6 p/n's each in about a 9x12" box. There are over 60 of those assortments, many never opened. Some have sat so long the plastic has turned brittle. Many of the trays have the Motorola logo right in the plastic. The numbers in large quantities so far are 2N5457, 2N5460, 2N5458, 2N5459, 2N3904, 2N3906, 2N2222, 2N5756, 2N5758, and about 10 or so other p/n's. The rest are mostly in 500 to 1,500 quantities. The same with a handful of resistor values, some are far more numerous than others. for some reason he had a shoe box size box full of 3.9m 1/4w resistors and rolls of 5,250 180 ohm 1w metal film resistors.
There's also a good many solderless connectors in the lot, but nothing common, all are odd styles, including a few in military bags which are marked 'platinum', as well as two boxes of neon dash indicators for various military aircraft. There's also several Aircraft radios in the lot, but all are older, nothing newer than than the early 70's, a few from the 30's and 40's as well. One tub is full of military aircraft dash gauges. The 9 330 yd rolls of various diameter heat shrink tubing will certainly come in handy though.
My original plan of going through all this in a few days is long past and out the window, its looking like a year long project now that will tie up my garage, basement, two spare rooms, and two trailers and my camper for the duration. I don't want to just pack it all away not knowing what all is here because it'll just sit. I want to clear out the useless items and sell off the large quantity items and knock it all down to a manageable size somehow.
The amount it will save me by not having to special order things a handful at a time will no doubt pay off over the years to come.
What bugs me though is that after I had already gotten the first lot of stuff here, I still found myself ordering parts because I simply couldn't find anyting in all the boxes that were at the time still packed in the trailer. As found it would fill a 53ft tractor/trailer box and maybe then some. It needs to get down to a lot that takes up no more than a few shelves in the house and maybe one wall in the basement or garage.
I did clean out two of these larger bins that he had, most were full of used items, but he saved everything, good or bad. The bright green one was full of old wax capacitors and used tube sockets.
The light gray cabinet is full of electrolytic caps, large wire wound resistors, and large switches. The four Akron boxes are full of small hardware and weigh in at well over a 100lbs each. There are thirty of these cabinets in all but only enough good drawers to for about 20 of them and a few of them are pretty well battered from either being overloaded or dropped. The goal is to make up four good stacks of them 5 boxes tall each, on wheels. so they can be moved easily.
The metal cabinets will stay in the garage or basement for used parts or other items. I see no good reason to use them for small parts, nor do I intend to save that much stuff here.
There are two of the green cabinets, and five of the gray cabinets. Each of them were in the guy's basement when I found them.
As i go through all this stuff I only wish it were more audio oriented, but most of it is rather generic.
In the end though, there was no way I could refuse it for free.
Its now been over a month since I started this whole deal here.
Yesterday I thought I saw the light at the end of the tunnel when I finally emptied the last small drawer cabinet and had what I thought was everything in the larger Akron bins. At that point I was thinking that all that was left was to label a few drawers and maybe re-organize a few items in numerical order to make them easier to find.
So far there's 30 Akron cabinets, each with 16 drawers, plus 7 60 drawer boxes which contain all the IC chips and Op Amps, arranged in numerical order.
Basically I put the larger items in the bottom set of drawers, transformers, switches, large capacitors, etc.
Then starting from the top in the the first cabinet, I assigned ranges to each drawer and put all the resistors in the two three drawers in the
first four cabinets, starting with 1/8w, then 1/4w, and so on. Each cabinet ended up with the top 20 drawers being resistor assortments in each wattage up to 10w. Then the next drawers are for transistors, in numerical order, by type, small transistors in the first two, then t-220 types, then TO-3 types, then brand specific numbers in the last two. Below the transistors I put the diodes, again separated by type, then in numerical order low to high. That took 12 drawers per tower, then the rest of the drawers are for capacitors, first by type, then by value, with the last cabinet having varistors, relays, and LED and Panel lights in the remaining drawers.
It was looking really good.
The whole sorting project has left me with about 250 empty small drawer cabinets so far, I've got stacks of them everywhere.
I do plan to use a few for things like fuse assortments, bulb assortments, and some hardware and a few will go on my work bench for small parts in the basement wood shop. One thing is for sure I'll never have to buy one of these cabinets again as long as I live.
Then...tonight, the guy's daughter shows up with her minivan and drops off 19 more tubs of parts.
two tubs of resistors, five with electrolytic caps, two with IC chips, more rolls of resistors, boxes of transformers, and four tubs of some type of amplifier kits. Something similar to an old Heathkit deal but from a company called Southtech. Each kit has all the resistors, capacitors, but no transistors and no power supply. I only glanced at them so far, they look small, with two T0-3 transistor spots on each board which is about 4x6" or so. The boards are fiberglass and the kits look fairly old, early 70's or so. The resistors in the kits are all Carbon Composition.
There are several boxes/cases of these white Mallory caps, plus large numbers of the epoxy caps and smaller Sprague and Mallory assortments. The few I did test so far seem to test fine.
Boxes of resistors on rolls - Panel Indicator lamps, many different types - Milliamp gauges, - sevderal cases of switches, all the same, and some DPDT 1/4" headphone jacks
Large box of variable resistors - Light bulbs - more variable resistors - RCA IC chips
Unknown 6 lead op amps or transistors-tub full of transistors marked PF-AR-17 274 KE-7021? - tub full of odd assortment of parts in bags
2 cases of Mepco Metal Film Resistors. - More odd assortments, all sealed in plastic boxes, 79 of them in all, all identical - Tub full of more 1/4 and 1/2w resistors, unsorted, about 40 lbs of them in 1 gal bags like shown here.
After thinking I was nearly done two days ago, now I'm looking at a few more days of bagging and sorting.
None of what is in the stacks of Akron bins include the bulk lots of many p/n's. I still have the cardboard barrels of various transistors and large boxes of items like shown above.
Keep in mind that most of this all came out of some old guys house. Most of which was stored in a few spare bedrooms he wasn't using.
About 1/4 of it came from several storage lockers he was renting. This last lot was in one of those lockers. My guess is that he ran out of space in the house and started renting space. It seems the newer items are coming from the storage lockers.
I'm seeing brands that I've not seen before, and a lot of suppliers that I never new existed.
Some of the receipts I'm finding are from Powell Electronics in Phila, PA, Alma Electronics Corp, Phila, PA Roberts Electronics in NJ,
Summit Electronics in NJ, plus about 30 others. All of the orders are huge and were shipped to his home. A few are clearance or surplus type sellers, or at least they are now, but the majority of the smaller orders are from Digikey and Mouser.
There are quite a few kits from various companies, a few are amps, a few are for power supplies, a few are for test equipment.
So far I've gone though four rolls of 2250 3x5" poly bags, and have to order more. I find it easier to have everything in bags in the drawers, that way its easier to just grab a bag and take what I need, then seal it up and put it back in the right slot. It keeps things sorted as they should be.
What I still need to work on, once everything is bagged, is to arrange and re-label each drawer in numerical order vs by type as most were before.
I completely redid the resistors and caps, but the transistors ended up being the most numerous part number wise and took the most drawers. Some drawers just got duplicates added to them, but the new drawers I added are in order but not permanently tagged yet.
Yesterday I thought I saw the light at the end of the tunnel when I finally emptied the last small drawer cabinet and had what I thought was everything in the larger Akron bins. At that point I was thinking that all that was left was to label a few drawers and maybe re-organize a few items in numerical order to make them easier to find.
So far there's 30 Akron cabinets, each with 16 drawers, plus 7 60 drawer boxes which contain all the IC chips and Op Amps, arranged in numerical order.
Basically I put the larger items in the bottom set of drawers, transformers, switches, large capacitors, etc.
Then starting from the top in the the first cabinet, I assigned ranges to each drawer and put all the resistors in the two three drawers in the
first four cabinets, starting with 1/8w, then 1/4w, and so on. Each cabinet ended up with the top 20 drawers being resistor assortments in each wattage up to 10w. Then the next drawers are for transistors, in numerical order, by type, small transistors in the first two, then t-220 types, then TO-3 types, then brand specific numbers in the last two. Below the transistors I put the diodes, again separated by type, then in numerical order low to high. That took 12 drawers per tower, then the rest of the drawers are for capacitors, first by type, then by value, with the last cabinet having varistors, relays, and LED and Panel lights in the remaining drawers.
It was looking really good.
The whole sorting project has left me with about 250 empty small drawer cabinets so far, I've got stacks of them everywhere.
I do plan to use a few for things like fuse assortments, bulb assortments, and some hardware and a few will go on my work bench for small parts in the basement wood shop. One thing is for sure I'll never have to buy one of these cabinets again as long as I live.
Then...tonight, the guy's daughter shows up with her minivan and drops off 19 more tubs of parts.
two tubs of resistors, five with electrolytic caps, two with IC chips, more rolls of resistors, boxes of transformers, and four tubs of some type of amplifier kits. Something similar to an old Heathkit deal but from a company called Southtech. Each kit has all the resistors, capacitors, but no transistors and no power supply. I only glanced at them so far, they look small, with two T0-3 transistor spots on each board which is about 4x6" or so. The boards are fiberglass and the kits look fairly old, early 70's or so. The resistors in the kits are all Carbon Composition.
There are several boxes/cases of these white Mallory caps, plus large numbers of the epoxy caps and smaller Sprague and Mallory assortments. The few I did test so far seem to test fine.
Boxes of resistors on rolls - Panel Indicator lamps, many different types - Milliamp gauges, - sevderal cases of switches, all the same, and some DPDT 1/4" headphone jacks
Large box of variable resistors - Light bulbs - more variable resistors - RCA IC chips
Unknown 6 lead op amps or transistors-tub full of transistors marked PF-AR-17 274 KE-7021? - tub full of odd assortment of parts in bags
2 cases of Mepco Metal Film Resistors. - More odd assortments, all sealed in plastic boxes, 79 of them in all, all identical - Tub full of more 1/4 and 1/2w resistors, unsorted, about 40 lbs of them in 1 gal bags like shown here.
After thinking I was nearly done two days ago, now I'm looking at a few more days of bagging and sorting.
None of what is in the stacks of Akron bins include the bulk lots of many p/n's. I still have the cardboard barrels of various transistors and large boxes of items like shown above.
Keep in mind that most of this all came out of some old guys house. Most of which was stored in a few spare bedrooms he wasn't using.
About 1/4 of it came from several storage lockers he was renting. This last lot was in one of those lockers. My guess is that he ran out of space in the house and started renting space. It seems the newer items are coming from the storage lockers.
I'm seeing brands that I've not seen before, and a lot of suppliers that I never new existed.
Some of the receipts I'm finding are from Powell Electronics in Phila, PA, Alma Electronics Corp, Phila, PA Roberts Electronics in NJ,
Summit Electronics in NJ, plus about 30 others. All of the orders are huge and were shipped to his home. A few are clearance or surplus type sellers, or at least they are now, but the majority of the smaller orders are from Digikey and Mouser.
There are quite a few kits from various companies, a few are amps, a few are for power supplies, a few are for test equipment.
So far I've gone though four rolls of 2250 3x5" poly bags, and have to order more. I find it easier to have everything in bags in the drawers, that way its easier to just grab a bag and take what I need, then seal it up and put it back in the right slot. It keeps things sorted as they should be.
What I still need to work on, once everything is bagged, is to arrange and re-label each drawer in numerical order vs by type as most were before.
I completely redid the resistors and caps, but the transistors ended up being the most numerous part number wise and took the most drawers. Some drawers just got duplicates added to them, but the new drawers I added are in order but not permanently tagged yet.
I've only taken pics of a small part of it all, the scale of all this stuff is mind boggling to me, even after more than a month of dealing with it all. More so that most of it was in the guys house. If you had walked in the front door nothing seemed odd but the back rooms were packed. The living room was fairly well kept, as was the kitchen but he had turned one bedroom into a workshop of sorts. It was shelved wall to wall with a long bench on on wall and a half dozen parts bin carts in the middle being used for storage as well two bedrooms were shelved out and packed to the ceiling as well. Plus the basement, garage, attic, four closets, and so far, 9 storage lockers he was renting.
What is even more mind boggling is the used parts, there was 9 tubs of used components that had been carefully unsoldered and sorted into plastic mayonnaise jars. One 20 gallon tub was filled with nothing but used larger bridge rectifiers, another is all used capacitors, another is all large wire wound resistors, some over a foot long. Another tub is split with half being used toggle switches, and other being full of large dual function variable resistors
One box I opened today, about a 12" cube, is full of crystals, but all are super high frequency, 12k and over. all appear used.
In the large tubs, he made wood supports to hold the weight, he cut wooden bottoms for each tub, and cut dividers that fit perfectly to the sides which he glued in place with what looks like marine urethane.
The last lot is mostly smaller tubs, about 5 gallon or so. most are full of op amps and larger transistors.
One medium size tub is filled with #241 RCA transistors, about 80 lbs of them.
The 741 op amps shown are a small bag found in one of the tubs, there's also a large barrel of them. Somewhere he got hold of a bunch of those 35 gallon recycling cans and was using them to store things in in the basement. He lined the cans with heavy poly bags, then filled the cans and heat shrinked the bag closed. Those cans are HEAVY, one bent the bottom plate on my handtruck trying to move it.
His daughter showed up today again and I knew I was in trouble when I realized how low her van was sitting. She had about 40 more small tubs full of more parts. Mostly all IC chips and more RCA op amps. Plus one full of 1 ohm 9" long by about 3/4" round wire wound resistors, another full of new, multi tap transformers, and another two tubs of square ceramic resistors in 1, 5, and 10 ohm.
Plus two full tubs of epoxy 'gum drop' capacitors. All of those are 100va and 600v in 1% tolerance.
Another tub was filled with more metal film resistors ranging from 10Ω to 15m, 5w. Plus a full case of those Mepco 681k metal film resistors and 12 more rolls of the same 5 and 10w .33Ω resis
tors on rolls.
I do have some books here that he had but none are cross reference books, just spec sheets on various components. There's probably 300 or so books in all, plus boxes of circuit design, component usage, and similar books as well. They're in a bunch of those glass door stereo rack cabinets and were along one wall in his living room.
One box she brought over today was full of more small Motorola transistors, all in 100 lots packaged in brown envelopes from "Nesco Electronics, Div. of Radio Electric Service of PA". The box is about 24x18x20" deep and contains five '100 count' packs of each value, all are small black transistors, such as 2N3904. 2N3906, 2N5460, 2N5210, 2N5087, 2N5486, 2N5457, 2N5459. 2N2222A, plus a half dozen or so more numbers that I'm finding in large numbers, including a few barrels of a couple types.
When I first started this I knew it was going to be a huge lot of stuff, but never once did I imagine it was going to be this big. This isn't 'personal hoarder' quantities, many of these parts are apparently the inventories of a few major manufacturers.
What I don't understand is why he had it all. he wasn't trying to sell it, and wen I went there, usually as a last resort, getting him to part with what I needed was like pulling teeth. Most of the time he wouldn't take any money, which is another reason I didn't make a habit of going there. Never once in all the years I knew of him there did I think he had any serious quantity of parts, all I ever saw was a few shelves of small parts bins through the door. He wouldn't let anyone inside, at least not past the side door, he would take your list, tell you to wait right there by the door, and he'd disappear into the back room and sooner or later come back with what you needed. Then you had to bargain with him over what they were worth, but most of the time he wouldn't take any cash, he just led you to think you were negotiating a price.
Looking at all the receipts, most of these parts were bought new by him, so he had money in them. They weren't just salvage or surplus he bought up because it was cheap. I quit going there because as he got older, his mind wasn't as sharp and I got the impression he didn't want to be bothered. If you went there with a list, he'd sometimes just grab what ever he had, often completely unrelated items and hand them to you. Either he just wanted to get rid of you or he was losing his faculties due to age.
I'm not sure how old he was but his daughter who contacted me told me she was born the while her dad was over in Korea in the early 50's and the house there was his parents place before that.
He never offered much information, nor does his daughter.
I do get the feeling that if I hadn't taken this all she would have either paid someone to remove it or put it all out on the curb and walked away. A common way to dump items here is to take them to the flea market and just leave what don't sell behind. It happens all the time.
Here's a few of the boards out of those kit boxes:
each board is about 6x3 inches or so
one of jar of used rectifiers:
he must have eaten a lot of mayonnaise, theres over 300 jars full of parts,
What is even more mind boggling is the used parts, there was 9 tubs of used components that had been carefully unsoldered and sorted into plastic mayonnaise jars. One 20 gallon tub was filled with nothing but used larger bridge rectifiers, another is all used capacitors, another is all large wire wound resistors, some over a foot long. Another tub is split with half being used toggle switches, and other being full of large dual function variable resistors
One box I opened today, about a 12" cube, is full of crystals, but all are super high frequency, 12k and over. all appear used.
In the large tubs, he made wood supports to hold the weight, he cut wooden bottoms for each tub, and cut dividers that fit perfectly to the sides which he glued in place with what looks like marine urethane.
The last lot is mostly smaller tubs, about 5 gallon or so. most are full of op amps and larger transistors.
One medium size tub is filled with #241 RCA transistors, about 80 lbs of them.
The 741 op amps shown are a small bag found in one of the tubs, there's also a large barrel of them. Somewhere he got hold of a bunch of those 35 gallon recycling cans and was using them to store things in in the basement. He lined the cans with heavy poly bags, then filled the cans and heat shrinked the bag closed. Those cans are HEAVY, one bent the bottom plate on my handtruck trying to move it.
His daughter showed up today again and I knew I was in trouble when I realized how low her van was sitting. She had about 40 more small tubs full of more parts. Mostly all IC chips and more RCA op amps. Plus one full of 1 ohm 9" long by about 3/4" round wire wound resistors, another full of new, multi tap transformers, and another two tubs of square ceramic resistors in 1, 5, and 10 ohm.
Plus two full tubs of epoxy 'gum drop' capacitors. All of those are 100va and 600v in 1% tolerance.
Another tub was filled with more metal film resistors ranging from 10Ω to 15m, 5w. Plus a full case of those Mepco 681k metal film resistors and 12 more rolls of the same 5 and 10w .33Ω resis
tors on rolls.
I do have some books here that he had but none are cross reference books, just spec sheets on various components. There's probably 300 or so books in all, plus boxes of circuit design, component usage, and similar books as well. They're in a bunch of those glass door stereo rack cabinets and were along one wall in his living room.
One box she brought over today was full of more small Motorola transistors, all in 100 lots packaged in brown envelopes from "Nesco Electronics, Div. of Radio Electric Service of PA". The box is about 24x18x20" deep and contains five '100 count' packs of each value, all are small black transistors, such as 2N3904. 2N3906, 2N5460, 2N5210, 2N5087, 2N5486, 2N5457, 2N5459. 2N2222A, plus a half dozen or so more numbers that I'm finding in large numbers, including a few barrels of a couple types.
When I first started this I knew it was going to be a huge lot of stuff, but never once did I imagine it was going to be this big. This isn't 'personal hoarder' quantities, many of these parts are apparently the inventories of a few major manufacturers.
What I don't understand is why he had it all. he wasn't trying to sell it, and wen I went there, usually as a last resort, getting him to part with what I needed was like pulling teeth. Most of the time he wouldn't take any money, which is another reason I didn't make a habit of going there. Never once in all the years I knew of him there did I think he had any serious quantity of parts, all I ever saw was a few shelves of small parts bins through the door. He wouldn't let anyone inside, at least not past the side door, he would take your list, tell you to wait right there by the door, and he'd disappear into the back room and sooner or later come back with what you needed. Then you had to bargain with him over what they were worth, but most of the time he wouldn't take any cash, he just led you to think you were negotiating a price.
Looking at all the receipts, most of these parts were bought new by him, so he had money in them. They weren't just salvage or surplus he bought up because it was cheap. I quit going there because as he got older, his mind wasn't as sharp and I got the impression he didn't want to be bothered. If you went there with a list, he'd sometimes just grab what ever he had, often completely unrelated items and hand them to you. Either he just wanted to get rid of you or he was losing his faculties due to age.
I'm not sure how old he was but his daughter who contacted me told me she was born the while her dad was over in Korea in the early 50's and the house there was his parents place before that.
He never offered much information, nor does his daughter.
I do get the feeling that if I hadn't taken this all she would have either paid someone to remove it or put it all out on the curb and walked away. A common way to dump items here is to take them to the flea market and just leave what don't sell behind. It happens all the time.
Here's a few of the boards out of those kit boxes:
each board is about 6x3 inches or so
one of jar of used rectifiers:
he must have eaten a lot of mayonnaise, theres over 300 jars full of parts,
I've gone through three rolls of 2250 3x5" poly bags so far, most of them on resistors and transistors. I need to find about 6,000 more.
What seems to work is multiply dividers in the larger Akron drawers with each item in small bags with the value printed in a tag inside the bag.
I gave up trying to inventory quantities, nearly all items are in 5k or higher quantities.
Sat. morning his daughter dropped off more stuff, this lot was in 4 large tubs and about 40 small clear flip top tubs.
The tubs are full of small assortments all in little plastic clam shells with 5 pieces each. I can't say if he was making up small assortments to sell or if he bought these like this from someone, but they make little sense in the whole realm of things here.
Two tubs are full of plastic jars full of resistors, which I believe are carbon film type but are brick red in color.
They test out to nearly identical to what they're marked, less than .1 ohm off from the rating on any of them.
All are 1/2w and 1w in values started at 1 ohm up to 1m, so there's quite a few jars of them. Another tub has black resistors with the values marked in white print, every last one of those are in odd specific values, like 273.5 Ω or 971.8 Ω or similar. They too run a wide range with little overlap, and every last one reads exactly what its marked. Those are marked 1% tolerance.
1/2w 180Ω carbon film resistors?
Note the bags of wire wound resistors, there are boxes of these in various colors or types,
The one tub had to weigh 100 lbs or more.
Small boxes, about 1x2" or so each with 5 pcs, in it. There are dozens of each 'kit'.
Good suggestion on the Sylvania cross reference, after some digging, it turns out there is a couple of them in the lot of books. One is from 1978, the other from 1980. When I looked up what it was I recognized the cover and remembered boxing up one just like it.
(There's a few hundred books in all, many are duplicates or annual editions and many are spec books from various manufacturers.
Some of the books go back as far as the early 40's, but there's very little here from that period other than a few tubes and a few bags of tube sockets.
As I go through all these items its becoming clear that the transistors alone will take up two full Akron 'towers', (160 drawers).
What seems to work is multiply dividers in the larger Akron drawers with each item in small bags with the value printed in a tag inside the bag.
I gave up trying to inventory quantities, nearly all items are in 5k or higher quantities.
Sat. morning his daughter dropped off more stuff, this lot was in 4 large tubs and about 40 small clear flip top tubs.
The tubs are full of small assortments all in little plastic clam shells with 5 pieces each. I can't say if he was making up small assortments to sell or if he bought these like this from someone, but they make little sense in the whole realm of things here.
Two tubs are full of plastic jars full of resistors, which I believe are carbon film type but are brick red in color.
They test out to nearly identical to what they're marked, less than .1 ohm off from the rating on any of them.
All are 1/2w and 1w in values started at 1 ohm up to 1m, so there's quite a few jars of them. Another tub has black resistors with the values marked in white print, every last one of those are in odd specific values, like 273.5 Ω or 971.8 Ω or similar. They too run a wide range with little overlap, and every last one reads exactly what its marked. Those are marked 1% tolerance.
1/2w 180Ω carbon film resistors?
Note the bags of wire wound resistors, there are boxes of these in various colors or types,
The one tub had to weigh 100 lbs or more.
Small boxes, about 1x2" or so each with 5 pcs, in it. There are dozens of each 'kit'.
Good suggestion on the Sylvania cross reference, after some digging, it turns out there is a couple of them in the lot of books. One is from 1978, the other from 1980. When I looked up what it was I recognized the cover and remembered boxing up one just like it.
(There's a few hundred books in all, many are duplicates or annual editions and many are spec books from various manufacturers.
Some of the books go back as far as the early 40's, but there's very little here from that period other than a few tubes and a few bags of tube sockets.
As I go through all these items its becoming clear that the transistors alone will take up two full Akron 'towers', (160 drawers).
If you don‘t put a lot of this stuff up for sale (and even if you do), somebody is going to be doing this again some day. And us geezers still using thru-hole parts are dying off too. There is certainly enough to open a store. I know I’ve got more inventory than Tubelab George (he only moved with one 26 ft van, my move used several and were still moving the house), and it doesn’t even come close to this.
How big is the team working on all the labeling and repacking? I wouldn’t even be able to go through one pack of 2200 bags in a year if I still had a job (Right now I have two).
How big is the team working on all the labeling and repacking? I wouldn’t even be able to go through one pack of 2200 bags in a year if I still had a job (Right now I have two).
I have three helpers, me, myself, and I.
I had someone helping but she burned out pretty fast and told me to throw it all away.
The original goal was a whole lot of free storage bins for other stuff I had here, and I was going to set up a few assortments in the small drawer cabinets for my bench. The problem with that showed up right away in that he had things so mixed up I couldn't find a thing.
Right now, I've got some things in the garage, basically the bench across the back wall is stacked high with plastic drawer cabinets, and I've got several tubs of used parts along one wall.
Then my 12ft motorcycle trailer is stuffed to the ceiling, as are my 14ft and 28ft enclosed trailers. A good bit of what's in them are bulk quantities, huge boxes, barrels, and tubs full of all one part number each.
I've pretty much gotten through all the small bins and consolidated them into the 6 stacks of Akron bins. (He had 9 small boxes with resistors, but he had 1/4w resistors split up throughout all the boxes and 1/2 and 1w mixed in as well. It really looked like he just put things where ever they would fit, with no concern with putting like items together. He likely bought resistor 'kits' and some were missing values, or when a value ran out, he put something else, unrelated in that drawer.
Resistors are done now, they're organized by type, then value. Large bulk quantities are tagged, labeled and on another shelf for if or when a bin needs to be refilled.
Caps are sorted by type, then by value. The set up there is good but I can improve it as needed.
I'm currently sorting through IC's and opamps now, I thought I had those all done until she dropped off four more tubs of them the other day.
Its likely going to mean that I have to add two or more boxes to the IC cabinets. Those are in the 60 drawer boxes atop the Akron bins in the pic above. I have 44 of them to play with if needed, all of which formerly held resistors, caps, and diodes. After the IC's I plan do the diode drawers, the added items will mean I likely need to alot 5 more larger bins just for diodes. They will be put in numerical order, where as he had them by type in no particular order.
The same for transistors, which will likely need two full stacks of the larger bins, and I plan to bag and box the larger lots so that each p/n can be kept in the same amount of space. The bulk box will be tagged for refills if needed.
This all was completely unintentional, I didn't set out looking for this stuff, the guy's daughter came to me looking for someone to get all the stuff out of the house and she was told by the city that they don't take electronics, so she was looking at an expensive cleanout bill. She offered me cash so I went down there and looked around. At first glance I thought it may fill my bike trailer, but I hadn't seen the barrels, or the boxes he had stashed all over the house. I also had no idea that he was renting storage lockers as well.
If this wasn't a couple blocks from my house, I likely wouldn't have bothered.
Whether I sell it or save some for my own use, none of it is any good without it being organized so that I can find things when I need them. Having it all stacked in tubs, boxes, and barrels does no one any good. A good many boxes and tubs are completely unmarked so every one I go through is a complete grab bag.
The IC's are proving to be the hardest to get through both because of the many brands and numbering systems, and the sheer number of them. He had some in cabinets, but most were bags in tubs with each bag being a complete mix of part numbers.
The diodes and transistors were both in the large bins and in smaller assortments, but loose in the drawers. This meant a ton of cross over between bins.
Plus some bins were all one p/n, and others were a mix of 50 p/n's.
I had someone helping but she burned out pretty fast and told me to throw it all away.
The original goal was a whole lot of free storage bins for other stuff I had here, and I was going to set up a few assortments in the small drawer cabinets for my bench. The problem with that showed up right away in that he had things so mixed up I couldn't find a thing.
Right now, I've got some things in the garage, basically the bench across the back wall is stacked high with plastic drawer cabinets, and I've got several tubs of used parts along one wall.
Then my 12ft motorcycle trailer is stuffed to the ceiling, as are my 14ft and 28ft enclosed trailers. A good bit of what's in them are bulk quantities, huge boxes, barrels, and tubs full of all one part number each.
I've pretty much gotten through all the small bins and consolidated them into the 6 stacks of Akron bins. (He had 9 small boxes with resistors, but he had 1/4w resistors split up throughout all the boxes and 1/2 and 1w mixed in as well. It really looked like he just put things where ever they would fit, with no concern with putting like items together. He likely bought resistor 'kits' and some were missing values, or when a value ran out, he put something else, unrelated in that drawer.
Resistors are done now, they're organized by type, then value. Large bulk quantities are tagged, labeled and on another shelf for if or when a bin needs to be refilled.
Caps are sorted by type, then by value. The set up there is good but I can improve it as needed.
I'm currently sorting through IC's and opamps now, I thought I had those all done until she dropped off four more tubs of them the other day.
Its likely going to mean that I have to add two or more boxes to the IC cabinets. Those are in the 60 drawer boxes atop the Akron bins in the pic above. I have 44 of them to play with if needed, all of which formerly held resistors, caps, and diodes. After the IC's I plan do the diode drawers, the added items will mean I likely need to alot 5 more larger bins just for diodes. They will be put in numerical order, where as he had them by type in no particular order.
The same for transistors, which will likely need two full stacks of the larger bins, and I plan to bag and box the larger lots so that each p/n can be kept in the same amount of space. The bulk box will be tagged for refills if needed.
This all was completely unintentional, I didn't set out looking for this stuff, the guy's daughter came to me looking for someone to get all the stuff out of the house and she was told by the city that they don't take electronics, so she was looking at an expensive cleanout bill. She offered me cash so I went down there and looked around. At first glance I thought it may fill my bike trailer, but I hadn't seen the barrels, or the boxes he had stashed all over the house. I also had no idea that he was renting storage lockers as well.
If this wasn't a couple blocks from my house, I likely wouldn't have bothered.
Whether I sell it or save some for my own use, none of it is any good without it being organized so that I can find things when I need them. Having it all stacked in tubs, boxes, and barrels does no one any good. A good many boxes and tubs are completely unmarked so every one I go through is a complete grab bag.
The IC's are proving to be the hardest to get through both because of the many brands and numbering systems, and the sheer number of them. He had some in cabinets, but most were bags in tubs with each bag being a complete mix of part numbers.
The diodes and transistors were both in the large bins and in smaller assortments, but loose in the drawers. This meant a ton of cross over between bins.
Plus some bins were all one p/n, and others were a mix of 50 p/n's.
I don't think this will ever be done, not so long as more stuff continues to get dropped off. While this morning's load is minor, it still changes the amount of space I need in the larger cabinets.
There's a few boxes of capacitor 'assortments, 9 boxes of varioius transistors and larger diodes. and another tub of very small hardware and a tub full of transistor mounting kits.
At this point I've exhausted my 'on-hand' supply of small plastic bags and envelopes, so until I get some more, all I'll be doing is sorting out the rest of the IC chips and op amps into more of those 60 drawer cabinets. There's a tub full of them yet to go through.
Its really started to look like I need to set up another 'tower' of Akron bins to expand the Transistor space.
Mylar cap kits
More assortments in plastic trays. No two trays though are the same size, just random size trays with random mixes of parts.
There are several hundred jars, cans, bags, and envelopes full of used parts like these. HIs wife said he would buy returned items back in the day and sit for hours removing parts from the boards and saving them. 90% of them are cleanly unsoldered, some are just cut off the boars leaving some pretty short leads.
The big question is are these even worth saving? I have no idea on their age or condition when removed and the thought that he may not have known about the issues with caps in the late 90's and early 00's. However, the few I pulled from a couple jars all tested out just fine.
There's a few boxes of capacitor 'assortments, 9 boxes of varioius transistors and larger diodes. and another tub of very small hardware and a tub full of transistor mounting kits.
At this point I've exhausted my 'on-hand' supply of small plastic bags and envelopes, so until I get some more, all I'll be doing is sorting out the rest of the IC chips and op amps into more of those 60 drawer cabinets. There's a tub full of them yet to go through.
Its really started to look like I need to set up another 'tower' of Akron bins to expand the Transistor space.
Mylar cap kits
More assortments in plastic trays. No two trays though are the same size, just random size trays with random mixes of parts.
There are several hundred jars, cans, bags, and envelopes full of used parts like these. HIs wife said he would buy returned items back in the day and sit for hours removing parts from the boards and saving them. 90% of them are cleanly unsoldered, some are just cut off the boars leaving some pretty short leads.
The big question is are these even worth saving? I have no idea on their age or condition when removed and the thought that he may not have known about the issues with caps in the late 90's and early 00's. However, the few I pulled from a couple jars all tested out just fine.