In my Denon cdp there is an opamp, a nec 4570c, can I replace it with one best? 😕
with this change I can improve the quality of the sound?
If the answer is yes, which do you recommend me?
i have alredy damped the case with a big improvement of the bass and a greater clarity of the middle and high 😉
Best regards,
m60gpmg
with this change I can improve the quality of the sound?
If the answer is yes, which do you recommend me?
i have alredy damped the case with a big improvement of the bass and a greater clarity of the middle and high 😉
Best regards,
m60gpmg
I replaced two 4570's in my Yamaha with four BB OPA627's. This is not easy to do, replacing a dual opamp with two singles. But the OPA627 seems to be the best, so I thought it was worth the trouble. I also added a Kwak Clock, and separate power supplies for the clock and the opamps. I have some pictures around somewhere... I'll post them if I can find them.
In fact I would prefer a simpler solutionThis is not easy to do, replacing a dual opamp with two singles
Another good opamp that is not single on the contrary double does exist? (since I would prefer a simple assemblage)But the OPA627 seems to be the best
Best regards,
m60gpmg
m60gpmg said:
In fact I would prefer a simpler solution
Another good opamp that is not single on the contrary double does exist? (since I would prefer a simple assemblage)
Best regards,
m60gpmg
Maybe an OPA2604? Probably the next best thing to a pair of 627's.
Sparhawk said:Maybe an OPA2604? Probably the next best thing to a pair of 627's.
OPA2134 has slightly better data than OPA2604 but how much does it mean?
peranders said:
OPA2134 has slightly better data than OPA2604 but how much does it mean?
I haven't compared them myself, but others seem to think that the 2604 sounds better than the 2134.
m60gpmg said:In my Denon cdp there is an opamp, a nec 4570c, can I replace it with one best? 😕
with this change I can improve the quality of the sound?
If the answer is yes, which do you recommend me?
If it is a multibit DAC(I think Denon often have multibit DAC´s) I can recommend Jocko´s circuit.
Found here:Jocko´s I-V stage
I use a slightly modified version followed by a simple JFET follower.
Try it,you will not be disappointed 😉
Nicke
more op-amp subst...
I have a Nakamichi CD-4, with a 9(!)pin, single in-line NJM 5532 S,
-please help me with a data-sheet / pin-config for this!
Arne K
I have a Nakamichi CD-4, with a 9(!)pin, single in-line NJM 5532 S,
-please help me with a data-sheet / pin-config for this!
Arne K
Connection Diagram
Hi Snake...😎
The pin function of the NJR5532 of 9 pins are
1--V+ (internaly conectd to 9)
2--A output
3--A - input
4--A + input
5--V -
6--B + input
7--B - input
8--B output
9--V+ (conct. to 1)
Regards
Jorge Santos
Hi Snake...😎
The pin function of the NJR5532 of 9 pins are
1--V+ (internaly conectd to 9)
2--A output
3--A - input
4--A + input
5--V -
6--B + input
7--B - input
8--B output
9--V+ (conct. to 1)
Regards
Jorge Santos
@ m60gpmg
Here we go again!
As you can see none of us can give a unique advice
But for sure it depends on the design your CD-Player delivers
and how therefore an OP amp behaves in there.
All i can advice you is to make some tests on your own.
This NEC4570c is relative slow against the so called good ones. I bet
there will be a better one for you.
You have only one IC to swap, so it won´t hurt to buy 3 or 4 OPs and an
IC-Socket to start your own tests.
I would recommend to buy a cheap NE5532, a philips one when its possible.
One from the Brownies OPA2604 or OPA2134.
An OP275, one of the circuits many like a lot.
And finally a really fast settling one like the AD826 or LM6172.
None of them is bad sounding. There can only be some problems with the really
fast ones due to the board layout, like flickering in the TV next to it 😉
With this selection you can find one that fits and if you like it you can
enter the never ending story even more.
This way i found my favourites.
Here we go again!
As you can see none of us can give a unique advice
But for sure it depends on the design your CD-Player delivers
and how therefore an OP amp behaves in there.
All i can advice you is to make some tests on your own.
This NEC4570c is relative slow against the so called good ones. I bet
there will be a better one for you.
You have only one IC to swap, so it won´t hurt to buy 3 or 4 OPs and an
IC-Socket to start your own tests.
I would recommend to buy a cheap NE5532, a philips one when its possible.
One from the Brownies OPA2604 or OPA2134.
An OP275, one of the circuits many like a lot.
And finally a really fast settling one like the AD826 or LM6172.
None of them is bad sounding. There can only be some problems with the really
fast ones due to the board layout, like flickering in the TV next to it 😉
With this selection you can find one that fits and if you like it you can
enter the never ending story even more.
This way i found my favourites.
thanks to everybody
Thanks to everybody!
Best regards,
m60gpmg
thanks of the suggestion I will do as you sayWith this selection you can find one that fits and if you like it you can enter the never ending story even more.
This way i found my favourites.
Thanks to everybody!
Best regards,
m60gpmg
Finally I found a datasheet of C4570. Maybe it is useful for people that want to replace C4570 for something good:
http://www.ee.nec.de/_pdf/G10528EJ6V0DS00.PDF
http://www.ee.nec.de/_pdf/G10528EJ6V0DS00.PDF
jean-paul said:Finally I found a datasheet of C4570.
You should have asked me... 😉
Fedde
Hi Fedde, it was Per-Anders that asked for it.
I still dream of a free datasheet-database on the web. Makes life easier for all of us when the companies delete theirs when you need them.
I still dream of a free datasheet-database on the web. Makes life easier for all of us when the companies delete theirs when you need them.
whoops, sorry not free... :-(
There is a free one though, I'll try to find the link again...
Fedde
There is a free one though, I'll try to find the link again...
Fedde
Cobra2
I did the same modification in Luxman CD
I changed it for one OPA2134 the change was better, only carefull becouse is neccesary that you respected the pin out,
also you need to make a little PCB to adapter the differents package outline,so
you can see an example in the www.lcaudio.com,
I have the datashett NJM5532 and I´ll sent you in PDF format at your email.
Jesús Puerto
I did the same modification in Luxman CD
I changed it for one OPA2134 the change was better, only carefull becouse is neccesary that you respected the pin out,
also you need to make a little PCB to adapter the differents package outline,so
you can see an example in the www.lcaudio.com,
I have the datashett NJM5532 and I´ll sent you in PDF format at your email.
Jesús Puerto
Replacing opamps
Hi all
My CDP has a NJM5532 opamp in the output stage. I am interested in changing this for something better.
I know that opamps like OPA2134 and OPA2604 are drop in replacements physically, however, are any changes to the circuit/surrounding components required or advised?
I am also interested in Sparhawk's comments about replacing a dual opamp with two single opamps.
Are the Brown Dog adaptors used for this any good?
Do they introduce additional problems by moving the opamps further away from the PCB/groundplane?
Is there another/better way to do this?
Hi all
My CDP has a NJM5532 opamp in the output stage. I am interested in changing this for something better.
I know that opamps like OPA2134 and OPA2604 are drop in replacements physically, however, are any changes to the circuit/surrounding components required or advised?
I am also interested in Sparhawk's comments about replacing a dual opamp with two single opamps.
Are the Brown Dog adaptors used for this any good?
Do they introduce additional problems by moving the opamps further away from the PCB/groundplane?
Is there another/better way to do this?
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