Onsemi Samples

Hello poeple. I'm just visiting from another forum but I just have to comment. I generally have no trouble ordering ON samples but, I go there every day.
First - it was mentioned that some of this questionable behavior is because they are such big corp. Ha, well, it really wasn't so big when Motorola sold it off to be ON and now, 5 years later, it's probably only 1/2 the size including the Cherry acquasition. It's because there are not enough poeple to do that "monitoring" and "autorizing"...
Second - When you do a sample request they give you a response e-mail. Look for the words "mlt sample" or just "mlt" in that e-mail. mlt Means market lead time, or, it will not be shipped dirrectly. You are in line with customer shipments because the sample bank does not have the device you requested... Basically Digi-Key stocks the major ON sample bank. Check out the box you get the parts in. If it looks like a Digi-Key box without the printing??? And the address says Theif River Falls, wherever, It came from the Digi-Key sample bank. mlt Stuff will be from asia most likely and singapore ussually. That will be a flat box with ON logos and yes, every box indavidually... I personally complained about this crap and as you can see, they listen to me. It's only my paycheck their wasting... Maybe I should give the "we're working ON it!" answer...
cost - most little small signal things are less than 1 cent. The smaller stuff, an order of magnatude less than that! Only the power FET and Big newer diodes and things will be more than a few cents at cost (large device packaging is more expensive). Really big stuff might get up to a buck or two or more. Powetap diodes would be some and I think the most expensive FET Ive seen is the NTY100N10E... We cannot expect to get close to those numbers unless we are ordering many thousands of parts...
Shipping costs - ON beleives the customer sample requests are an important first line to customers, especially new ones. So, they ship overnight! Could not expect better costomer service than that... Unless your paying for it??? I don't have too... I dont' know what to say there. It's part of my job. Most big corps just have a FedEx or UPS account # and poeple like me don't see the charges we just give them the number???
waiting - I've never had to wait more than maybe 2 or 3 weeks for anything, more than 2 is very rare. They have never sent me a message regarding anything wrong late or whatever. They e-mail a response from the original sample request.... then another e-mail when it ships... Many times I have ordered and the next day the box is ON my chair after lunch, and when I read my e-mail, there is one that says it shipped hmmm...
Most of this bis is automated.... Hope I cleared up any questions... Nice to see someone using our parts here... Personally I have a little trouble finding appropriate or good enough performing devices for my projects... At least I look there first and I have used them when they do perform... I think maybe in the powerFET area, I like vertical FETs and we only make laterals... There OpAmps for audio never kept up with the Nationals etc... but they should have a few newer ones now. I havent been playing with them for a while...
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are you sure it doesnt depend on your email address?
National for example will charge people from hotmail, yahoo and major ISP shipping, but if you have an email from a small organisation, then it is free.
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Microchip are the same, if you are a business then they supply samples free.
I use my murton pike systems email address when I order samples.
They only give out upto 3 samples but better than nothing.
 
I find that when I'm designing a circuit, I don't have a lot of spare time to wait for a part to maybe show up or not. So, I order small quantities from the usual retail vendors like Mouser, Digikey or Arrow, and get them when I expect them to arrive, and move forward with the design.

I guess if you're doing blue sky design, with no clear goal or time frame, it's OK to wait some unknown amount of time for a sample, but I'm also only interested in parts that are already in the sales channel, which is not the case for all samples, so if I get a sample, it doesn't always mean that I can then buy the part for production.

I'm probably just poo-pooing the sample system, but I never saw the point in it, at least for me and probably others on this forum. I'm a commercial user, but I'm never going to be assembling huge quantities into finished products. But, since I'm not a hobbyist, I actually need parts when I need them, and a real vendor does that a lot better than a sample program. YMMV...