I don't understand your question, elaborate pleaseHow can you comment on the fit and finish?
A guy buys them, brings them home.View attachment 1393898
https://www.stereophile.com/content/inside-oneiros-audio-speaker-launch-living-colour
They boast that there is 100 hours of CAD work to do this design. I do lots of CAD work drawing loudspeakers. 100 hours is a joke … some drawing sets i do take a fifth that much, that is with flat sheets. As Chrisb says, curves cost money. 1000 hrs is more realistic.
dave
Wife says those things are UGLY, get those things out of here.
Guy sheepishly goes back to the shop asking for a refund.
-As if that's never happened.
They remind me of-

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Hey gang let's have a listen to my new speakers...
What a minute their on the other side of the glass.
They cost more than our pallet covered studio.
What a minute their on the other side of the glass.
They cost more than our pallet covered studio.
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Um... So "80 hours of intensive CAD work" and "over 100 hours of FEA analysis" (so finite element analysis analysis?) Really? So they had two guys working for a bit over two weeks to create this design. Wow! OMG!! Take my money!! Just shows how far disconnected from the real world the marketing department is.This is what you get if you equate speaker design with Formula 1:
Anybody who thinks they can design from scratch, manufacture, and bring to market a product in two-ish weeks is absolutely delusional.
Besides, they look like they were left out in the sun a bit too long. But that's my opinion. 🙂
Tom
Also more than the $5 plastic speaker stand. Okay. It's audiophile plastic, so $500. 😛They cost more than our pallet covered studio.
Tom
I don't understand your question, elaborate please
You can't comment with any credibility on how well they're manufactured, assembled and finished just from the photographs.
Eh, take note. Multi object item with very many planes/axis all coming together very nicely inside out. Hugely more complex than a standard box. The credibility comes from being one who can also model and craft in this manner. The bits we can't see can take many forms, but still need to come together and these have and very nicely
Yuk, different tastes! I have far more appreciation for the designs and hours involved in the weaving of Persian and Turkish carpets.
"Female model" There are 2 high rise buildings in Mississauga called "Marilyn Monroe Towers" - Bad taste in my opinion
"Female model" There are 2 high rise buildings in Mississauga called "Marilyn Monroe Towers" - Bad taste in my opinion
Humour aside, I think the points Dave was making was:
- 100hrs (or is it 80 -bit hazy on that 😉 ) isn't actually much of a boast when for e.g. he & to a point 'we' regularly put a substantial amount of that into CAD work for a 'basic' rectilinear box. It was probably, if you tot it up, a whole lot more than that in practice, once you start factoring everything else in
- The purple propse on the above basis simply isn't very well thought out -especially for the asking price, claimed materials & background. The marketing men could have done a [much] better job as far as that goes
Which translates to "Hacked together in two working weeks." Not sure, if that is good advertising 8)They boast that there is 100 hours of CAD work to do this design.
I think in the first picture they’re upside down… and that speaker stand probably costed 1872 hours of CAD.
Eh, take note. Multi object item with very many planes/axis all coming together very nicely inside out. Hugely more complex than a standard box. The credibility comes from being one who can also model and craft in this manner. The bits we can't see can take many forms, but still need to come together and these have and very nicely
That is complete nonsense. You can't see whether the fit and finish is of a high level. That's all. You can't declare that it must be because you can 'model and craft in this manner'. No one is impressed by you trying to sound technical.
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I honestly don't know what this means, but I'm quite confident it's presented so that an audiophile wannabe, Stereophile follower, get be aroused: 'twin 10" Oneiros woofers designed in-house using multilayer, inverted parabolic Twaron Graphene nano-composite bass cones'.
100 hours for surfacing seems like a lot if they were delivered good 3d drawings. One of my college mates worked for Nokia, he could do a phone fascia in an afternoon. Lots more intersecting surface projections on one of those than in this.
Not dissing the design process regardless of the number of hours involved. Sonic performance ? Marketing at this price could be better. Its an artwork, not to my liking, but beats a banana taped to a canvas.
Also more than the $5 plastic speaker stand. Okay. It's audiophile plastic, so $500. 😛
Tom

OK, I see the base

https://www.stereophile.com/content/inside-oneiros-audio-speaker-launch-living-colour
"Shaped like a robust, undulating curtain or perhaps a walking wave, the Oneiros stands approximately 5'6" tall and weighs 265lb each ."
For the safety of the purchaser, they should include these for the $650,000 usd price tag.
for moving
Hernia Belt
some stickers
"Shaped like a robust, undulating curtain or perhaps a walking wave, the Oneiros stands approximately 5'6" tall and weighs 265lb each ."
For the safety of the purchaser, they should include these for the $650,000 usd price tag.
for moving
Hernia Belt
some stickers
I was kind of thinking the spacing between drivers was a bit wide. I recall 60's speakers having a lot of separation between the woofer and tweeter, but I've seen more recent designs with part of the flange cut out of the midrange or tweeter in order to mount them closer together. This design has missed the boat on several fundamental aspects of speaker design I see regularly discussed here in the multiway forum.After all that time its still a junk MTM with bad center to center spacing.
Magic baffle shape, to have rear mounted drivers with a diffraction step instantly at the driver.
Genius !!
Its comical how lost the HiFi market with usual high prices to make people assume high quality
I'd have to feel sorry for any recording engineer/producer friends to whom the owner shows these off. What can they say other than "oh, yes, very, very impressive" or whatever it takes to keep a friendship and not bruise an ego.in this price range the owner may have the prestige in mind.
Its bought to impress. Fidelity in sound then plays a minor role.
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