https://www.stereophile.com/content/inside-oneiros-audio-speaker-launch-living-colour
They boast that there is 100 hours of CAD work to do this design. I do lots of CAD work drawing loudspeakers. 100 hours is a joke … some drawing sets i do take a fifth that much, that is with flat sheets. As Chrisb says, curves cost money. 1000 hrs is more realistic.
dave
My first reaction to that is that it's limiting (and perhaps oddly specific). I know nothing about these yet, but I already wonder whether the CAD was geared toward cosmetics rather than iterative design.
100 hours isn't much of a boast, is it? Especially for that sort of price.
I wonder how long they'll wait after the journalists depart before they shunt these into a corner & wheel out their usual ATC monitors... 😉 Still, that's 'high-end' commercial hi-fi for you. And they wonder why so few take an interest. There's your answer -or one, anyway.
I wonder how long they'll wait after the journalists depart before they shunt these into a corner & wheel out their usual ATC monitors... 😉 Still, that's 'high-end' commercial hi-fi for you. And they wonder why so few take an interest. There's your answer -or one, anyway.
This is what you get if you equate speaker design with Formula 1:
If you have listened to similar systems, you can roughly estimate what this will sound like.
I'm betting on 'Wilson-like' but with a more synthetic/clinical signature.
Such high-tech exercises NEVER even remotely approach the reproduction of 'natural sound'.
If you have listened to similar systems, you can roughly estimate what this will sound like.
I'm betting on 'Wilson-like' but with a more synthetic/clinical signature.
Such high-tech exercises NEVER even remotely approach the reproduction of 'natural sound'.
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As art maybe, as a speaker that performs its intended purpose at the level expected I wouldn't know. Unfortunately the shape reminds me of a sanitary something every pharmacy sells.
How mnany hours before they presented their drawings to the 3D CAD guys, then details, thise details, especially withthis shape would take many more times than that.
The FEA is CAD, as would be the initial XO work —some people spend 100 hours on that.
davr
You missed the "more than" part of the sentence in the posted article. It's poorly worded. But I agree, it sounds like nonsense, so who knows how much CAD time is actually in the speakers, just for the cabinets alone.
I know from personal experience, that CAD time can add up pretty quickly, especially when people don't really know what they want, or keep changing their minds. 😉
jeff
It's not exactly the best piece of purple-prose. '...80s hours of intensive CAD design...'
As opposed to '...80 hours of languid mucking about, eating bags of crisps and fantasising about Emilia Clarke massaging baby oil just lightly fragranced with Bronnley English Fern into Rebecca Ferguson'.
As opposed to '...80 hours of languid mucking about, eating bags of crisps and fantasising about Emilia Clarke massaging baby oil just lightly fragranced with Bronnley English Fern into Rebecca Ferguson'.
All that CAD work just to make them look that ugly!
Which part?
Leaving the drivers and the electronics of it aside. Commenting as a high-end composites developer;
Very very small boxes brace themselves, as they get larger, they need more bracing (even in the form of wall thickness). If one had ambitions to build very large cabs and aspire to very high end, the shape looks appropriate and the fit and finish is very well executed. Bringing in a pro composites team to analyse and tune the structure also sounds appropriate. The use of high-end composites also is perfect. An F1 chassis builder would be a great source for this expertise
High end composites development costs money. A bwoy can drive a v8 sports car out of the showroom from the earns of designing just one composite part for a brand. 100 and some hours? There is a thread around 2yrs old in subwoofers where I mention modelling similar forms, female torso with truncated limbs. Is a day's work in Blender. 100hrs and a bit sounds reasonable for polishing that to a finished design with the mouse in the hands of folks who know what they are doing
What about the price? Again, let's leave aside development costs. These are large cabs, would like to see some comments on the size of these vs a pair of F1 tubs in material and build costs
Can it be sour grapes?
It's all about what drives us and the impressions we get when looking at something. Example, Pagani gesturing the female form as inspiration for the cars. A grand form and one to inspire the best of the best attempts
Curves are nice and rigid. Not floppy like flat panels. They might be nice. Or they might be nonsense, but curved panels and FEA are legit. Insufficient info to poo-poo...
After all that time its still a junk MTM with bad center to center spacing.
Magic baffle shape, to have rear mounted drivers with a diffraction step instantly at the driver.
Genius !!
Its comical how lost the HiFi market with usual high prices to make people assume high quality
For the most part maybe the rear mount round over and magic baffle actually do nothing.
And center to center is just the usual horrible. You just cant see the driver mounting plate sizes
behind the fancy sparkle barf pink front plate.
But im running surround sound lol. 650k for fronts then another for rear.
Darn it.
Magic baffle shape, to have rear mounted drivers with a diffraction step instantly at the driver.
Genius !!
Its comical how lost the HiFi market with usual high prices to make people assume high quality
For the most part maybe the rear mount round over and magic baffle actually do nothing.
And center to center is just the usual horrible. You just cant see the driver mounting plate sizes
behind the fancy sparkle barf pink front plate.
But im running surround sound lol. 650k for fronts then another for rear.
Darn it.
in this price range the owner may have the prestige in mind.
Its bought to impress. Fidelity in sound then plays a minor role.
Its bought to impress. Fidelity in sound then plays a minor role.
