One of the biggest troubles with all that charlatanism is that intelligent people can (often) see right through it and thereby come to the conclusion that it is all simple-minded nonsense. Nothing could be further from the truth. The fact is though, from childhood we are told stories and fairy tales of pretend things like fairies and goblins and witches and ghosts and "once upon a time" stuff in the style of childish pretend nonsense. All in the same category of Father Christmas, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. Or in tv shows like Charmed, Sabrina the teenage witch, Buffy the Vampire Slayer etc in the context of "good" always defeating evil.
But lets look at real life. Why has the idea of witchcraft, satanism, ouija boards, fire walking, pointing the bone, voodoo, magic, clairvoyance, sorcery and lots of others persisted down to this day, and why is it practised by many people who would be classified as intelligent by modern standards? If the whole thing was just whitewash it would quickly disappear and hardly anybody would take it seriously?
In the Western world many consider these things to be pure nonsense, but in many places in Africa for example, these kind of things are taken for granted as another facet of life to be aware of. When you have people that can perform operations by reaching through the skin to manipulate or remove internal organs, or with their eyes rolled back in a trance they walk across white hot stones without getting burnt, or can breaking the neck of an enemy's child while they were alone in a locked house, or "see" events that are occurring at a great distance, or receive genuine and otherwise unobtainable information from invisible sources claiming to be dead loved ones, then there must be something more than imagination and credulity at work.
You are absolutely right that there is much that science does not yet explain, but with all due respect, it is definitely not true to conclude that "there is nothing out there to be afraid of, and nothing to harm you." Big mistake. Keep well clear.
GP.
But lets look at real life. Why has the idea of witchcraft, satanism, ouija boards, fire walking, pointing the bone, voodoo, magic, clairvoyance, sorcery and lots of others persisted down to this day, and why is it practised by many people who would be classified as intelligent by modern standards? If the whole thing was just whitewash it would quickly disappear and hardly anybody would take it seriously?
In the Western world many consider these things to be pure nonsense, but in many places in Africa for example, these kind of things are taken for granted as another facet of life to be aware of. When you have people that can perform operations by reaching through the skin to manipulate or remove internal organs, or with their eyes rolled back in a trance they walk across white hot stones without getting burnt, or can breaking the neck of an enemy's child while they were alone in a locked house, or "see" events that are occurring at a great distance, or receive genuine and otherwise unobtainable information from invisible sources claiming to be dead loved ones, then there must be something more than imagination and credulity at work.
You are absolutely right that there is much that science does not yet explain, but with all due respect, it is definitely not true to conclude that "there is nothing out there to be afraid of, and nothing to harm you." Big mistake. Keep well clear.
GP.
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Hi Circlotron,
Why don't you join the Hi-fi Accesories Club then?
Voodo? I believe in the power of the mind,sure.
Moreover I've been to Brazil,travelled the world ,spent a couple of years in the Caribbean.
If you want ,it does exist,but so what?
Ask'em to get the digititis out of the cd-player and all of a sudden you'll understand their power.
Hell a blue led does more then that....
Does anybody really take it seriously?
I grant you one point though:the people that live in the places you mention do take it seriously.
Then again people live in places like ours take other things just as seriously,religion perhaps?
From an agnostic point of view it is all just as believable as unbelievable?
Cheers,🙄
Hi Circlotron,
Why don't you join the Hi-fi Accesories Club then?
Voodo? I believe in the power of the mind,sure.
Moreover I've been to Brazil,travelled the world ,spent a couple of years in the Caribbean.
If you want ,it does exist,but so what?
Ask'em to get the digititis out of the cd-player and all of a sudden you'll understand their power.
Hell a blue led does more then that....
Does anybody really take it seriously?
I grant you one point though:the people that live in the places you mention do take it seriously.
Then again people live in places like ours take other things just as seriously,religion perhaps?
From an agnostic point of view it is all just as believable as unbelievable?
Cheers,🙄
Well, the divining works- big time
on metal, by my own experience and isn't that hard to learn
My son used to be service manager at a local Ditch Witch dealership - Don't know if that is world wide, but it's a manufacturer of commercial ditch digging, trenching and similar equipment.
He told me that the ditch and trenching people do it frequently - and that one of the guys showed him - I said you're kidding, I gotta see this- I hid my car keys in several different places and he could go right to them - in ten minutes he had me doing it successfully - I think a major thing is the wires have to be the right size - you just hold them loosely and twitch them and they'll work just like you expect - I would imagine that a practiced person could do so easily and under good conditions find water-
The wires obviously react to magnetic influences and also are potentially prone to disturbance from nearby objects that are magnetic - due to the potential for "interference" this is not a 100% guaranteed sort of thing - but it's a definitely doable thing and not all that hard.
seeing is believing and there's no magic - I think most people could do it just from the description here without too much effort -
Ken
on metal, by my own experience and isn't that hard to learn
My son used to be service manager at a local Ditch Witch dealership - Don't know if that is world wide, but it's a manufacturer of commercial ditch digging, trenching and similar equipment.
He told me that the ditch and trenching people do it frequently - and that one of the guys showed him - I said you're kidding, I gotta see this- I hid my car keys in several different places and he could go right to them - in ten minutes he had me doing it successfully - I think a major thing is the wires have to be the right size - you just hold them loosely and twitch them and they'll work just like you expect - I would imagine that a practiced person could do so easily and under good conditions find water-
The wires obviously react to magnetic influences and also are potentially prone to disturbance from nearby objects that are magnetic - due to the potential for "interference" this is not a 100% guaranteed sort of thing - but it's a definitely doable thing and not all that hard.
seeing is believing and there's no magic - I think most people could do it just from the description here without too much effort -
Ken
Not much of a supernatural fan here but I have some respect for dowsing. One day when I was in high school my physics teacher said he thought dowsing worked, saw an artice claiming to know how it worked. Before long everyone who tried it could get it to work, sort of, the wires would locate electrical lines and water lines. Figuring it didn't work off our auras or something, we decided that if the wires moved on their own it didn't need us. Thus the invention of the dowsing skateboard, a skateboard with two pvc pipes to hold the wires and a string to pull it with. It worked really well every time the wires lines up you could follow the line to a switchbox or water fountain/sink. Outside it would pick up power and water lines in the parking lot.
I would imagine that a practiced person could do so easily and under good conditions find water
You can find whatever you want, but you have to decide what you are sensing for first.
seeing is believing and there's no magic - I think most people could do it just from the description here without too much effort
You don't even need the dowsing rods - they are merely indicators.
This old dowser fellow I spoke of showed me map dowsing.
He got me to draw a map of the property and floor plan, and at his table 25km away he plotted on the paper water streams, fault lines and other stuff accurately.
Also showed me eye dowsing too.
This is very old knowledge that has been banished to occult status mainly by religions over the eons.
Interesting that the Catholic church outlawed dowsing, but used dowsers to place places of worship over favorable places.
Eric.
You can find whatever you want, but you have to decide what you are sensing for first.
seeing is believing and there's no magic - I think most people could do it just from the description here without too much effort
You don't even need the dowsing rods - they are merely indicators.
This old dowser fellow I spoke of showed me map dowsing.
He got me to draw a map of the property and floor plan, and at his table 25km away he plotted on the paper water streams, fault lines and other stuff accurately.
Also showed me eye dowsing too.
This is very old knowledge that has been banished to occult status mainly by religions over the eons.
Interesting that the Catholic church outlawed dowsing, but used dowsers to place places of worship over favorable places.
Eric.
That IS interesting.
Can you find any links talking about that? I looked but couldn't. Not the first time a church has used improper means to gain their ends.mrfeedback said:
Cleansed.....
Graham, sorry I can't recall specific book titles, because they were borrowed at the time, but what I read was to do with dowsing and history of dowsing.
This was also told to me as part of discussions and lessons regarding dowsing different underground parameters such as water streams, fault lines, geomagnetic lines, ley lines and others.
Part of his point was to show me that some spots healthwise can be regarded as Geopathic, and others to be very beneficial.
Frank explained to be that intersections of different underground parameters can cause vertical vortices, and this concentration of radiations can affect/effect health mood and well being according to exposure/time.
As well as geopathic places that can cause arthritic, chronic fatigue and other conditions, there are distinctly good places too such as the intersections of ley lines, and these ley line intersections were a prize spot for placing churches, and the churches have secretly employed dowsers in the past to locate them.
I had the opportunity to confirm this for myself in a large cathedral style church in Switzerland that I believe is around 400 years old, about 6 years ago.
At the time I was not thinking of dowsing as I walked into this place of worship.
As I walked quite slowly in through the entrance, staring up at the magnificent ceiling, I walked over a spot that I could not mistake feeling.
This twigged my interest, so I wandered around and dowsed (you can do this without rods and nobody has a clue what you are doing) two quite strong ley lines intersecting at about 60 degress forming a spot about 5 feet diameter about 15 feet in from the front doors at the head of the long walkway that leads through the center of the chuch and to the altar at the far end, and all the pews off to the left and right.
Walking over this spot is like a dose of some kind of happy drug - quite instantly the effect is of invigoration, energising, calming and feeling of happy well being.
Longer exposure gives stronger and longer lasting effect.
With the location of this intersection, it is ensured that the congregation unwittingly pass over this spot twice per visit.
Quite a neat trick I reckon on the part of the chuches to knowingly do this and at the same time keep the masses stupid.
Eric.
Graham, sorry I can't recall specific book titles, because they were borrowed at the time, but what I read was to do with dowsing and history of dowsing.
This was also told to me as part of discussions and lessons regarding dowsing different underground parameters such as water streams, fault lines, geomagnetic lines, ley lines and others.
Part of his point was to show me that some spots healthwise can be regarded as Geopathic, and others to be very beneficial.
Frank explained to be that intersections of different underground parameters can cause vertical vortices, and this concentration of radiations can affect/effect health mood and well being according to exposure/time.
As well as geopathic places that can cause arthritic, chronic fatigue and other conditions, there are distinctly good places too such as the intersections of ley lines, and these ley line intersections were a prize spot for placing churches, and the churches have secretly employed dowsers in the past to locate them.
I had the opportunity to confirm this for myself in a large cathedral style church in Switzerland that I believe is around 400 years old, about 6 years ago.
At the time I was not thinking of dowsing as I walked into this place of worship.
As I walked quite slowly in through the entrance, staring up at the magnificent ceiling, I walked over a spot that I could not mistake feeling.
This twigged my interest, so I wandered around and dowsed (you can do this without rods and nobody has a clue what you are doing) two quite strong ley lines intersecting at about 60 degress forming a spot about 5 feet diameter about 15 feet in from the front doors at the head of the long walkway that leads through the center of the chuch and to the altar at the far end, and all the pews off to the left and right.
Walking over this spot is like a dose of some kind of happy drug - quite instantly the effect is of invigoration, energising, calming and feeling of happy well being.
Longer exposure gives stronger and longer lasting effect.
With the location of this intersection, it is ensured that the congregation unwittingly pass over this spot twice per visit.
Quite a neat trick I reckon on the part of the chuches to knowingly do this and at the same time keep the masses stupid.
Eric.
What else is new?
Hi,
And you think politicians don't pull the same tricks?
If you look at the location of the major old cities such as Cairo you will also find that there is a magnetic concentration.
A book that may interest many is on topics such as this one is
Erich von Danicke's "Were the gods astronauts"
Fascinating stuff.
I'm sure quite a few of you have read that book too.
Cheers,😎
Hi,
And you think politicians don't pull the same tricks?
If you look at the location of the major old cities such as Cairo you will also find that there is a magnetic concentration.
A book that may interest many is on topics such as this one is
Erich von Danicke's "Were the gods astronauts"
Fascinating stuff.
I'm sure quite a few of you have read that book too.
Cheers,😎
Re: Cleansed.....
Almost as if the Earth has acupuncture points too. Or maybe just a leaking gas main?😉
Amen. 🙄 Ain't that the tip of the iceberg.
Beware and Aware Of Ground Radiation Concentrations....
Part of the point of this as I was taught it is to beware of where you place your bed and where you spend long hours.
Also just to be aware that there are pathogens other than microbial.
Eric.
Part of the point of this as I was taught it is to beware of where you place your bed and where you spend long hours.
Also just to be aware that there are pathogens other than microbial.
Eric.
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Quite a neat trick I reckon on the part of the churches to knowingly do this and at the same time keep the masses stupid.
Did I not say in my post on page 1 "Their large scale influence extends earthwide, in the three major arms of Big Business, Politics, and Religion. Examine closely, and you will see that these three have a common thread in their attitude toward ordinary people. I'm sure you can think of a jillion examples.fdegrove said:
Taiming Little Darling Wild Animals....
Remember School Grade 1, Day 1.
"Now kids repeat after me -
We have FIVE senses, and physics, chemistry, biology, astronomy, and heaven."
As far as I am concerned magnetic and electric field sensing are normal, and to be understood and used.
Eric.
Remember School Grade 1, Day 1.
"Now kids repeat after me -
We have FIVE senses, and physics, chemistry, biology, astronomy, and heaven."
As far as I am concerned magnetic and electric field sensing are normal, and to be understood and used.
Eric.
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