Nice idea 🙂
I would be OK to buy a DiyAudio.com T-Shirt, which cost would integrate the participation for the server
I would be OK to buy a DiyAudio.com T-Shirt, which cost would integrate the participation for the server
T-shirts etc will eventually be on offer but all take quite some time to organise. In the short term I'll probably officially start a beg-a-thon in about a week.
karma and jwb,
please respond to the emails I have sent both of you as a matter of urgency.
karma and jwb,
please respond to the emails I have sent both of you as a matter of urgency.
I gave the guys of http://www.hostbasket.be/index.shtml a call. They promised to reply tomorrow.
/Hugo
/Hugo
I asked a friend of mine who runs an ISP how much 30GB a month would cost and he suggested that it would start at $60. But he thought the ideal solution for this type of site was to run it at home on an ADSL connection.
A moments thought shows that at 256kb outgoing 30GB would take about 10 days. So it's plausible.
Paul
A moments thought shows that at 256kb outgoing 30GB would take about 10 days. So it's plausible.
Paul
On the idea of shirts, I can get some high quality embroidery done. I'm a friend of a friend of someone who does it. The only high cost part is the setup and digitizing the image, the rest should be fairly cheap. When it comes time for that, I can find out about the prices.
I want a shirt~!!! Maybe some think kinda "customisable" with different coloured backgrounds and some designs...whu's gonna design it though??
Paul Ranson said:
If you averaged out our traffic over a month, it would suggest that 256Kbps would be plenty but because sometimes we have 10 people viewing the site and other times there are 600 people viewing the site, 256Kbps wont come close to being able to handle the peaks.
Do you have minute by minute stats? Looking at a UK based (but much smaller) forum the load is actually quite spread, I suppose people access from work as well as home so even without the global smoothing the load is spread over up to 18 hours a day.
Anyway DIY diyaudio.com had an appeal.
Paul
Hi,
A 2 to 4 Mbit leased line should be more like it...You need to take the peaks into account, otherwise the whole shebang comes to a grinding halt.
I think is what we're currently using is a 2 Mbit line or better from the responses I measure.
Cheers, 😉
A 2 to 4 Mbit leased line should be more like it...You need to take the peaks into account, otherwise the whole shebang comes to a grinding halt.
I think is what we're currently using is a 2 Mbit line or better from the responses I measure.
Cheers, 😉
fdegrove said:
We're sitting on the back of a fibre feed at the moment if I remeber correctly.
I'd feel happy enough with 4Mbps or 2x T1's for now. Given the rate that the site is growing, that's only going to last so long though.
My suggestion is burstable bandwidth. A lot of places let you purchase say a 2Mbps line, which at peak time is burstable to 10Mbps (arbitrary numbers here people 😛).
Of course, you're charged for the peak periods, but as long as peak periods aren't too long (like 1/2 a day, every day), then its ok. That way you're just charged a small premium each day for the bursts, and you're charged a smaller fee for the 2Mbps line. Once the site grows of course, the line can be increased to 3, 4, 5, 10, or 100Mps (lets hope it never gets to the point of actually NEEDING 100Mbps to function!)
Of course, you're charged for the peak periods, but as long as peak periods aren't too long (like 1/2 a day, every day), then its ok. That way you're just charged a small premium each day for the bursts, and you're charged a smaller fee for the 2Mbps line. Once the site grows of course, the line can be increased to 3, 4, 5, 10, or 100Mps (lets hope it never gets to the point of actually NEEDING 100Mbps to function!)
I've been in contact with a number of the cheaper hosts (host gator, host basket and radish) mentioned here and none of them are willing to host the site unless we use a dedicated server which makes it very expensive.
I still think that we need to persue the idea of having a server donated to us and then using colocation which in the long term is probably the best option. Given that we serve over 20 million pages a month to a couple of hundred thousand unique addresses, the promise of some cheap targetted advertising might be enough to get a company to cover the costs of a new server. Any ideas which companies we could ask?
In the long term, we do need to seriously consider the continued revenue making ability of the site.
I still think that we need to persue the idea of having a server donated to us and then using colocation which in the long term is probably the best option. Given that we serve over 20 million pages a month to a couple of hundred thousand unique addresses, the promise of some cheap targetted advertising might be enough to get a company to cover the costs of a new server. Any ideas which companies we could ask?
In the long term, we do need to seriously consider the continued revenue making ability of the site.
AudioFreak said:
I am sure that there would be takers for "naming opportunities" -- i.e. a commercial rate card for prices approximate to what one pay for advertising in Elektor or AudioXpress. Just have the commercial stuff on another page -- the DIYAUDIO.YELLOWPAGES (pages.jaune?) -- and you could just bill monthly via a credit card, PayPal etc.
http://www.ev1servers.net
they seem to have some good prices for servers (you 'rent' a server from them) .. about $100-$150/month for a decent server, not sure on the speed/transfer though (says something about 700Gig transfer!!!)
btw, that means that we wouldn't have to get a server of our own
http://www.ev1servers.net/english/all.asp
that's the page listing all the available servers btw
they seem to have some good prices for servers (you 'rent' a server from them) .. about $100-$150/month for a decent server, not sure on the speed/transfer though (says something about 700Gig transfer!!!)
btw, that means that we wouldn't have to get a server of our own
http://www.ev1servers.net/english/all.asp
that's the page listing all the available servers btw
Local server donation - location
Surely we need to know the location of the hosting service first.
Shipping a server half way round the world makes no sense, and the hardware is the minor cost anyway.
Also, if we use our own server box, we need a maintenance arrangement - backup unit to swap-out, and someone, or list of people who'll do it.
Surely we need to know the location of the hosting service first.
Shipping a server half way round the world makes no sense, and the hardware is the minor cost anyway.
Also, if we use our own server box, we need a maintenance arrangement - backup unit to swap-out, and someone, or list of people who'll do it.
Netlist said:
I had to call them back today due to lack of answer. They did not even remember my one day old call so these guys are not an option.
/Hugo
AA has a lot of sponsors. They are not the biggest companies, guess the bigger players will be more difficult.AudioFreak said:
However.....having your banner at the largest audio forum....
You might need to contact our 'bigger' members for more know-how.
/Hugo
We'll host it...
Hi guys, This is Brainchild from over in the video forum. I run the site http://lumenlab.com where we sell DIY video guides and will soon be selling kits. We host with Pair networks. We'd be willing to host DiyAudio on a pair networks account, 40 gig x-fer/month, 1+gig DB. In exchange we'd like a 'sponsored by' banner on the front page and a permanent thread in the video section or a small lumenlab banner on the video forum. I know this isn't an advertising site but we are grassroots DIY at Lumenlab. If you guys are amenable to this give me a shout: grayson(at)lumenlab.com
Hi guys, This is Brainchild from over in the video forum. I run the site http://lumenlab.com where we sell DIY video guides and will soon be selling kits. We host with Pair networks. We'd be willing to host DiyAudio on a pair networks account, 40 gig x-fer/month, 1+gig DB. In exchange we'd like a 'sponsored by' banner on the front page and a permanent thread in the video section or a small lumenlab banner on the video forum. I know this isn't an advertising site but we are grassroots DIY at Lumenlab. If you guys are amenable to this give me a shout: grayson(at)lumenlab.com
Re: Local server donation - location
That's what managed hosting and colocation are all about, they charge a fee to 'manage' your box at their site and you tell them what to do.
The difference is, a dedicated server remains the property of the hosting company and they might charge $300 - $500 a month for us to rent and use that server, with colocation, we own the server so their base charge would be more around $100 a month plus options.
Almost certainly somewhere in the USA.dhaen said:
dhaen said:
That's what managed hosting and colocation are all about, they charge a fee to 'manage' your box at their site and you tell them what to do.
The difference is, a dedicated server remains the property of the hosting company and they might charge $300 - $500 a month for us to rent and use that server, with colocation, we own the server so their base charge would be more around $100 a month plus options.
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