Need help with triamping Divine 100.49 speakers

[uaeproz]

Hello all,

I'm new to this forum and this is my first post 🙂

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post thread though.

I need some guidance/advice from the experts. I am a beginner with little knowledge of tri-amping. I would appreciate any contributor to this thread. So, thanks in advance.

I want to get the optimum output out of the XTZ Divine 100.49 speakers by active triamping them and tuning/tweaking them using the measurement tool (room analyzer II pro from XTZ). However, I am a beginner in this kind of stuff and I would appreciate the help.

I recently bought ATI AT3007 amplifier, I will dedicate it for the center, surround and rear speakers. I recently bought Active Crossover from Rane. The model is AC 23S from a local supplier. However, the local supplier advised me to use MOSFET amplifiers.

I’m not sure what’s the best possible option, I need to buy amplifiers now and I would like to have some guidance. Here are the specs for the speaker:

• Type: 3-way speaker, two 10" drivers as woofer, one 7" midrange and one
• 25 mm/1" tweeter.
• Dimensions: 432 x 1240 x 600 mm / 16.7 x 48.4 x 23.6 inch (W x H x D) (with feet)
• Weight: 70 kg / 154 lb (pcs)
• Impedance: 4-8 ohm
• Nom. impedance: 4 ohm
• Min. impedance: 3 ohm
• Frequency Range: 25 (20) - 25.000 (25.000) Hz - Anechoic (typical room)
• Efficiency: 89 dB
• Crossover frequencies: 250 Hz / 2500 Hz
• Filter: 2nd order (12 dB/oct.) for the midrange. 3rd order (18 dB/oct.) for woofers & tweeter.
• Magnetically shielded: No
• Binding post: Gold-plated tri-wiring / Pole screw / Banana plug / Spade (Fork)
• Power: 900 W Short term IEC 268-5, 450 W Long term IEC 268-5
• Tweeter: Visaton ceramic dome tweeter. Magnetically shielded. Weight 1kg.
• Midrange: Thiel & Partner C173N-T6-90, Neodymium magnet. Weight 3kg.
• Woofer: SEAS, aluminum cone, aluminum frame, high flow basket, 3 kg magnet. Weight 4kg.
• Front baffle: 38mm, Back baffle: 75mm, Side MDF at least 30 mm, M6 Spikes
• Color: Black Piano & Walnut Veneer

You can find Tweeter specs here: KE 25 SC - 8 Ohm

You can find Midrange specs here: accuton® Carefully selected loudspeaker drivers.

You can find Woofer specs here: H1209-08 L26RFX/P

I have few questions concerning each amplifier:

• Tweeter amp:

• What is the maximum wattage RMS for this driver?

• At what ohm (4, 6 or 8)?
• What class (A, AB, C, D)?

• Should I get Standard transistor like ATI AT3000 or MOSFET or Tube?
• Which amplifier specifically do you advise me to buy for this driver? And why do you recommend this amp in particular?

• Midrange Driver amp:

• What is the maximum wattage RMS for this driver?

• At what ohm (4, 6 or 8)?
• What class (A, AB, C, D)?

• Should I get Standard transistor like ATI AT3000 or MOSFET or Tube?
• Which amplifier specifically do you advise me to buy for this driver? And why do you recommend this amp in particular?

• Woofer amp:

• What is the maximum wattage RMS for this driver?

• At what ohm (4, 6 or 8)?
• What class (A, AB, C, D)?

• Should I get Standard transistor like ATI AT3000 or MOSFET or Tube?
• Which amplifier specifically do you advise me to buy for this driver? And why do you recommend this amp in particular?

I need to setup the crossover. I have attached the Rane manual for your reference. I would like to have a startup baseline and then I will use the measurement tool or my ear to tweak it. I have the following queries to determine my baseline:

• MASTER LEVEL control: what level should I set it?
• LOW LEVEL control: what level should I set it?
• LOW DELAY control: what level should I set it?
• LOW / MID crossover frequency selector: what frequency should I set it?
• MID LEVEL control: what level should I set it?
• MID DELAY control: what level should I set it?
• MID / HIGH crossover frequency selector: what level should I set it?
• HIGH LEVEL control: what level should I set it?

I would appreciate your time and efforts in response to the above.

Thanks,

Abdulla

 

[Inductor]

You need to start somewhere, here is my first impressions.
You have a good equipment, starting with the speakers certainly, lo and behold...
Have fun.
3-WAY active project:

10" Woofers (parallel) Seas H1209-08 L26RFX/P – 126/130W (RMS)
each driver specs
Long Term Power Handling * 125 W
Short Term Power Handling * 300 W
You can use a 130W (260/300W max.) RMS power amp (for each stereo speaker.) for 3/4 Ohms (parallel connected), this with spec Xmax, you have the ability to go more than doubled instead (35mm excursion p.p. vs. 14mm p.p.) so giving a overall of 260W or 300W (to 350W) a good choice if playing hard (more distortion from the speaker, ports are to the back in this case).

7" Accuton C173-6-090 mid
driver specs
Power handling 120 Watt - Xmax 5mm
You can use a 120W (spec from manufacturer, more with high pass), 120W/150W to 240Wmax. (Short Term?) RMS power amp 8 Ohms (nominal), a 200W power amp or less would be just fine with me.

1" Visaton KE 25 SC - 8 Ohm Tweeter
80W to 140 Watt Peak power handling with high pass (RMS)

 

[Inductor]

You have two channels not used in the main amp. Maybe you would need only one more amp or 4 channels total. This semi-active configuration also has very good results from your speakers p.12 on the pdf. But, that's not me to decide...

 

[uaeproz]

You need to start somewhere, here is my first impressions.
You have a good equipment, starting with the speakers certainly, lo and behold...
Have fun.
3-WAY active project:

10" Woofers (parallel) Seas H1209-08 L26RFX/P – 126/130W (RMS)
each driver specs
Long Term Power Handling * 125 W
Short Term Power Handling * 300 W
You can use a 130W (260/300W max.) RMS power amp (for each stereo speaker.) for 3/4 Ohms (parallel connected), this with spec Xmax, you have the ability to go more than doubled instead (35mm excursion p.p. vs. 14mm p.p.) so giving a overall of 260W or 300W (to 350W) a good choice if playing hard (more distortion from the speaker, ports are to the back in this case).

7" Accuton C173-6-090 mid
driver specs
Power handling 120 Watt - Xmax 5mm
You can use a 120W (spec from manufacturer, more with high pass), 120W/150W to 240Wmax. (Short Term?) RMS power amp 8 Ohms (nominal), a 200W power amp or less would be just fine with me.

1" Visaton KE 25 SC - 8 Ohm Tweeter
80W to 140 Watt Peak power handling with high pass (RMS)

Hey man, thank you so much for your contribution. I appreciate it.
I have couple of queries, I’m relatively new to this kind of stuff and I may sound dumb 😀 so bear with me 😀

• What is Xmax and what should I do with it?
• The entire speaker is rated at 4 ohms impedance but some drivers are rated at 8 ohms so which should I consider? amps with 8 ohms output or 4 ohms output?