Need help on a Leak Speaker 2020 i have just brought

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beta_sound said:
For sreten, so what of the other less known gem do you know which will be suitable for most types of music (mainly Jazz, funk, disco or even some dance music stuff).

It will be interesting to hunt them down and try it out.

Anyway, cheers for all those suggestions in your last post. Is ther anyone here disagrees with the selcetion of speakers and would challenge him with your own recommendation?

The more selection of speaker the better, but i am going to have to narrow it down to a particular one. And being on a budget i'll need to be very realistic about the chioce and a very good overall speakers to invest in.

Thank you to all.
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VFM is very much a question of what you can get for how
much and in what condition, and does it suit your purpose,
and is it good enough for your system.

The TM mk1s I'm pointing you towards on ebay are miles
better than the Leak 2020s and should be very cheap due
to poor presentation, even though apparently A1 condition.

A good pair of stands will cost you more than the speakers,
unless you come back here and ask what's the DIY way to
cheap high performance.

Also add the thing with secondhand is whats not good value
or good reputation new can be fantastic value secondhand.
e.g. :
http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/...orecordsperpage=50&sacategory=1497&catref=C12

🙂 sreten.

P.S. to confirm they are mk1s you should confirm they have
gold anodised frames and the tweeter is a soft dome.
 
#24
sreten said:


VFM is very much a question of what you can get for how
much and in what condition, and does it suit your purpose,
and is it good enough for your system.

The TM mk1s I'm pointing you towards on ebay are miles
better than the Leak 2020s and should be very cheap due
to poor presentation, even though apparently A1 condition.

A good pair of stands will cost you more than the speakers,
unless you come back here and ask what's the DIY way to
cheap high performance.

Also add the thing with secondhand is whats not good value
or good reputation new can be fantastic value secondhand.
e.g. :
http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/...orecordsperpage=50&sacategory=1497&catref=C12

🙂 sreten.

P.S. to confirm they are mk1s you should confirm they have
gold anodised frames and the tweeter is a soft dome.
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I understand a good pair of speakers is a subjective matter but their are certain speakers that after getting advise from experience users always makes it easy to filter down a list of great many other speakers out there, and pinpoint the one you think will be suitable to your needs (the style and the technical performance).

Thank you for pointing me to a recommended speaker, but it is a Heybrook HB3 loudspeakers in walnut cabinet? and not a Tannoy MK1 as you mentioned? i'm i missing something here. Anyway, they look solid and very nice. So i begun searching the internet to find the spec for these speakers and funny enough i found one with the same name but looks like this instead
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.

I am somewhat baffle by this. Maybe i should email the owner about his item.

Anyway, before that i would like to confirm that this is the same speaker you recommended (no not the one in the picture above but at ebay).

As for the stand, will yo not get away with it by how you position your speakers?

Another thing about these speakers on ebay is that i believe they are 100w but my amp is only 36 - 50 RMS. Will that affect the performance of the speakers?

Also, apologies to Duo, sorry you did mention JBL.
 
#28
THe Technic speakers looks nice and is pretty powerful for its size. But i am looking for something to match my Marantz amp 1072 which has only @36-50 RMS (not quite sure exactly but round about that figure).

Here is one i think might be suitable: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14993&item=3095659470&rd=1

Though, i have no lidea what the condition is like and i have tried emialing the seller since yesterday and still no reponse yet. Only 4 hours til is ends. I need to might a quick decision. Anyway, here is some info on it: http://www.hilberink.nl/codehans/tannoy77.htm (scoll halfway down the page and if you scroll further down the page, the specs are shown).

Here's another one:

Celestion Ditton 33 Speakers -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14993&item=3095747389&rd=1

It is quite powerful but i am interested because i don't live too far away from this seller's location so i might ask if i can pop down there with my amp and test it out. But i don't want to waste any time if it is not worth it. What do you think? He also claim that is is worth £1000 (hmmm?) in this listing.
 
#29
I also forgot to mention. When i tested the Leak Speakers 2020 (after cutting off the speaker socket), one did not work and the other one just sound like a standard radio speaker and the sound was just crackling. I tested with my Marantz amp 1072 playing a few vinyl on my Technics SL1210. Anyone knows as to why this is happening?

Thanks.
 
#30
You need to be specific about the size and quality you want,
for the size the Technics are hard to better, and will work
fine with ~ 40W if your not a volume freak, the simple fact
is more modern speakers can handle more power than older
ones, and power rating is not a requirement.

The technics could be an outstanding bargain for a small speaker.

the Tannoy Oxfords are a completely different ball game, size,
efficiency and neutrality wise, still a bargain if for under £100.

The Celestion 33's I'd regard as simply old, poor and not worth bothering with.

The only Goodmans speakers worth having are the Dimension 8's,
as much for novelty value as quality but pretty decent sound.

Probably the best manafacturer to look out for for quality old
british loudspeakers is Rogers, there are a few on e-bay.


🙂 sreten.
 
#31
Many thanks for all your advise (you must be getting tired of me by now). But as you can see i am desparate for a pair of speakers since i have bought a faulty Leak speaker (just my good luck!). And now i feel really cautious about what i am getting, as i only want one to last for a good long time and not have the trouble. I also want to built my own speakers soon until i have a decent pair to use first. Of course, that will be in a thread somewhere on this forum.

If i knew, maybe i should of approach DIYAudio.com first before deciding. Anyway, i'm going to check out the one you mentioned.

The Rogers are very good, noe wondering they are always going for quite a lot. But when you said Roger, you mean anyone is decent?

Thanks again.
 
#32
If you want own a "classic" on the cheap the Technics
are the ones to go for, they are remarkably good.
(one of the lesser known gems previously referred to)

They may not be a "classic" now but will be in the future.

Any decent large speaker is not going to be cheap, the best
Rogers are the Studio 1 and the LS7. They rarely produced
a "bad" speaker, so most are good secondhand buys.

As Rogers have a good reputation your unlikely to be able
to get them at a "dirt" cheap price. The real bargains
are decent relatively unknown speakers at silly prices.

What is annoying is your choices seem to be all over the place,
and now your talking about building your own speakers, from
someone who doesn't know you can simply remove a DIN
loudspeaker plug, seems a little rich.

There's no way you can build a speaker remotely approaching
the quality obtainable secondhand for the same money, if you
know what to look out for in a speaker.


However at the right price the following are good :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14993&item=3095804177&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14993&item=3095660155&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14993&item=3096141871&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14993&item=5700005933&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14993&item=3096281334&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14993&item=3096407148&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14993&item=3095958968&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14991&item=3095481681&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14991&item=3096101982&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14991&item=3095916652&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43804&item=3096124263&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14991&item=3096214969&rd=1

🙂 sreten.
 
#36
That's it, i have emptied my pocket full of cash. So i hope these speakers are going to be worth every pennies (not even sure how much they were originally). Why Tannoy- i guess it brings me back to the Tannoy you mentioned in the earlier post (MK II) even though this is different.

I'll let you know how i get on with it and how it sounds- next week. Fingers cross! hope it's going to be sweet.

Which one of them did you prefer?

The Castle Conway II ??? (I like it, seems quite a solid speaker). I was near to bidding for one of the B & W speakers you have mentioned.

And now to sell some of my old records to make up for the money i have spent...
 
#37
Well at the price (£65 all in including postage) you can't go wrong.

TBH the rather excellent stands are probably worth as much as the
speakers, so at say £35 a pair, I'd say the Eclipses will be well worth it.

Should be excellent for the outlay.

🙂 sreten.
 
#39
Yeah! the sound it produce is nice, though a bit too much of the high freq and not really enough of the bass unless i turn it up on my amp. But i think this is to do with my amp probably. However, the strange thing is that when using my amp with a general technics speakers the bass is quite boomy (without having to turn up the bass on my amp).

Sorry, the amp i have is a Marantz 1050.

Anyway, the weight of the spaeker are not as heavy as i would of expected.

Overall, they are good and loud but i wish it had a little more bass.

Compare this with the Leak speakers, it is still a bargain. The stand are very average but it was a bonus to have them.

Changing the subject just now, i have a pair of AE Aegis speakers i really like and it's bi-wirable. At the back it has LF and HF connectors. Now, i have bi-wired it before but now i don't really want to. How do you just connect it directly without bi-wiring it, do you have to attach a thin strip of metal to both LF to HF? i,e. (LF right to HF right and LF left to HF left). After that, which one would you connect the amp to the speakers (LF or HF)?

Also, there is a Technic SL1200 MK1, which is the first series of the Technics DJ deck. Do you think it is just good as the other Technics? The only difference with this one is that is has a rotary pitch controll instead of the usually pitch slider you get on the newer series.

And thanks for your great advice!
 
#40
Well accuracy is one mans too much bass and anothers not enough.

Personally its not an issue for me as I always build in some
EQ for the low bass into my amps to suit my taste (flat).
(its a lot easier than changing speakers)

Line the Tannoy's cabinet with very cheap thin vinyl floor tiles
(several layers 3/4) for some improvement. The stands are
pretty good compared to others in the lightwieght school of
thought, (and they fit the loudspeakers) though they don't
compare to "heavyweight" stands if you are that way inclined.

🙂 sreten.
 
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