BTW your NCD's sound really fine, tough to tell the difference with the 400AD. Trying to find them with different music. Some extra burn in hours will help I guess.(have about 100 now)
Think the neighboorhood will start complaning about SPL😀
Forgot its sunday
Think the neighboorhood will start complaning about SPL😀
Forgot its sunday
Bgt said:BTW your NCD's sound really fine, tough to tell the difference with the 400AD. Trying to find them with different music. Some extra burn in hours will help I guess.(have about 100 now)
Think the neighboorhood will start complaning about SPL😀
Forgot its sunday
😀 Thing is Bert I'd expect the NCD to sound a lot better mainly because they cost more than the UCD.
I'll admit my UCD's are sounding soo good at the minute, if I was too upgrade I'd want a noticeable improvement
Bert, 6V@500khz ripple is too much for a ribbon tweeters, which have very little inductance. If you will use claimed features e.g. "The switching frequency is adjustable in the range of 330 to 1000 kHz.", then will >9V@330 ripple, or about 20W@4Ohm continuously. BTW, how implemented interface with ATtiny13, i see no display and no buttons for software control of the switching frequency?
Bgt said:
Lars, sorry, my fault
Because I had to switch from 0-1V RMS to 1-10V RMS to get full output the DC content of the generator had to be adjusted.
When I did that it was ok, will make another photo now.
On the UCD I get the output to clip with a level less than 1V RMS.
The NCD needs more. This shouldn't be? 45db should be enough to get full output under 1V RMS?
Hmm..Where you found any words about 45db gain? I see only that -"Input Level 0.9V RMS (200W 8Ohms)" so 40VRMS/.9VRMS=44.4(4) times, but not db's, it's equal 20log(44.4)=33db.🙂
t. said:
T, I look at it from a technical&sonic viewpoint, difference in way of designing/sound. If its no better, than yes, cheaper is better.
The UCD's are very robust also.
IVX said:
IVX, how can 500khz do anything with a speaker???? I just cannot imagine this will translate to consumption in the tweeter. Mine is not hot after 4 days of 24h playing.
I don't know about ribbons.
You must be right, I think I measured about 1.2V rms for full output for me 100V on the scope. Is about 155Watts.IVX said:
Bgt said:
Just someone has mismatching with times/db, so your UcD must be little bit louder indeed 🙂
Bgt said:
Normal tweeters have impedances that go VERY high in that frequency regiond, whereas the impedance of ribbons would be about 6~8 flat out, which could mean as much as 6W continuous?
Bgt said:
Thanks Bert, Its fine if you don't own either amp, you can just pick one but if you already own say UCD it may be a waste to buy something else if it does not sound better🙂
Enjoying reading your updates Bert
I has played with ETON ER4 4Ohm ribbon tweeters, they have really flat Impedance/Freq plot, so you'll give about 20W to heat ER4 if your amp runs at 330khz. For an usual twiters 9V@330Khz is still safe, as i guess.
I will measure again, I don't want to be wrong on this. Will make a photoshot. Hang on for 20 minutes.
Guys, tell me please about software freq. control something? How it works, optional LCD display with keypad or so?? I can't figure out.
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2v/div and 0,5uS/div.
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UCD 400
0.2V/div 0,2us/div so is about 475khz.(this 1 is the amp. with groundlift resistors, 1 transf. and 2 supply rails, BTW the UCD dual/mono has exactly the same ripple 😀 )
So UCD has 1V ripple and NCD nearly 6V.
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