rajeev, about anthony's N channel amp, I did build it, it works wonderfully but I doubt its stability. I want something more stable and durable. anthony's N channel amp mysteriously blows up if I plug my bass guitar to my system. and that happens even at low volumes and within a vew minutes of plugging it in.
I still have the PDF file of anthony's N channel amp but I don't think I can post it here. I know it is copyrighted.
I still have the PDF file of anthony's N channel amp but I don't think I can post it here. I know it is copyrighted.
THANKS LARS
Please suggest the doo,s and dont,s when planning the layout of the output stage !!! what is MOST important ??
As I had written eirlear
" For six mosfets each side in the output , the length of the track on the pcb from the emitters of T12 & T13 to the Gate of the output mosfets will be at least seven inches long on reaching the last mosfet , I hope this will not create any problems however the 100 ohm gate resistor will be nearest to the mosfet ."
What else should I do ??
What will be the temp of the Output devices in the 1000w 4ohm version
Thanks
djQUAN for the reply
I also had made an N-channel amp from the siemens BUZ series application circuit published in Elector years ago , in that some times in idle a mosfet blows , otherwise the sound is very good . I had used Irfp250,s instead of the BUZ mosfets .
Please suggest the doo,s and dont,s when planning the layout of the output stage !!! what is MOST important ??
As I had written eirlear
" For six mosfets each side in the output , the length of the track on the pcb from the emitters of T12 & T13 to the Gate of the output mosfets will be at least seven inches long on reaching the last mosfet , I hope this will not create any problems however the 100 ohm gate resistor will be nearest to the mosfet ."
What else should I do ??
What will be the temp of the Output devices in the 1000w 4ohm version
Thanks
djQUAN for the reply
I also had made an N-channel amp from the siemens BUZ series application circuit published in Elector years ago , in that some times in idle a mosfet blows , otherwise the sound is very good . I had used Irfp250,s instead of the BUZ mosfets .
How many people wants to build the amp?
Maybe one of us (preferably in the states/east, cheaper, right?) will take them to be factory made, produce a small but worthwhile quanitity, and be kind enough to take care of the deliveries?
Are there any other parts that will be worthwhile to groupbuy?
Thanks
Adam
Maybe one of us (preferably in the states/east, cheaper, right?) will take them to be factory made, produce a small but worthwhile quanitity, and be kind enough to take care of the deliveries?
Are there any other parts that will be worthwhile to groupbuy?
Thanks
Adam
Rajeev: It's a bit hard for me to give you so precise instructions for the layout. However it's a quite forgiving design, with 'eat all' (almost) parts requirements.
I suggest you post your layout here in the thread, so we can all try and help you optimize it before you go ahead and build it.
AdamZuf: The price of the amplifier will mainly contribute from heat sinks, transformer and cap bank. The electronics should run you no more than 40-50$ per ch. (1000 W)
I suggest you post your layout here in the thread, so we can all try and help you optimize it before you go ahead and build it.
AdamZuf: The price of the amplifier will mainly contribute from heat sinks, transformer and cap bank. The electronics should run you no more than 40-50$ per ch. (1000 W)
hey lars, I think you missed my questions or make comments on my post on page 12, post 112.........😉 😀
So, does anybody have a good working pcb layout they can post? I want to build this, but don't have the layout.
Also, what mosfets should i use for output for the best quality?
Also, what mosfets should i use for output for the best quality?
It's nevertheless important with a good pcb layout and for a pro it's no problem to achieve this. Half of the performance is the pcb, rest is the design.Lars Clausen said:Rajeev: It's a bit hard for me to give you so precise instructions for the layout. However it's a quite forgiving design, with 'eat all' (almost) parts requirements.
Lars, why don't you think of a groupdeal for at least the pcb? I see no problem with that if you run it like that. I vote for a doublesided nice looking pcb with groundplane and plated through holes.
OOPSSSS In my last post I forgot to refer to the PCB's... I was talking about if we should get them factory made, if there's enough demand.
I'm taking 4 PCB's!
I'm taking 4 PCB's!
n channel amp.!!
Hi Lars.
I still could not get any ans for my previous post.
please do the favour by throwing some light on the amp. I will post my PCB shortly.
I am just going ahead with the board design,I think Single side 90mm x 180 mm should fit in all the components.
1. OOOOps sorry about the Misprint of IRFP640 I meant if I can Use P Channel IRFP9640, for the Higher power of 500w 8 Ohms.
2. Okay GURU!! I think you are right I dont want any oscillation problem ,Will go ahead with BD139/140.
3. With Bias of 50 mA in test what was the cross over distortion for the 8Ohms & 4 Ohms load, Out of curious whats the slew rate of this Amp.
4. I have a toroid transformer which i will be testing with of 1.6 KVA ,55-0-55 AC, whats the power do you think I might get with this.
5. I understand with You & Rajeevs disscusion that I/P GND and the central GND should remain in the same track, Do you Think so!!
6.A good point in adapting of your short ckt Prot from the Milldia Schematic,Can you clarify how exactly to fix as lot of Diys are looking forward for this.
7. Do you suggest on any increase of gate resistors from 100 ohms for high power will this be stable.
Thanks
Arasuk
Hi Lars.
I still could not get any ans for my previous post.
please do the favour by throwing some light on the amp. I will post my PCB shortly.
I am just going ahead with the board design,I think Single side 90mm x 180 mm should fit in all the components.
1. OOOOps sorry about the Misprint of IRFP640 I meant if I can Use P Channel IRFP9640, for the Higher power of 500w 8 Ohms.
2. Okay GURU!! I think you are right I dont want any oscillation problem ,Will go ahead with BD139/140.
3. With Bias of 50 mA in test what was the cross over distortion for the 8Ohms & 4 Ohms load, Out of curious whats the slew rate of this Amp.
4. I have a toroid transformer which i will be testing with of 1.6 KVA ,55-0-55 AC, whats the power do you think I might get with this.
5. I understand with You & Rajeevs disscusion that I/P GND and the central GND should remain in the same track, Do you Think so!!
6.A good point in adapting of your short ckt Prot from the Milldia Schematic,Can you clarify how exactly to fix as lot of Diys are looking forward for this.
7. Do you suggest on any increase of gate resistors from 100 ohms for high power will this be stable.
Thanks
Arasuk
Are you guys interested in a complete PCB with all 6 sets of MOSFET's on board, or a smaller PCB with just the low level parts, to hardwire a number of MOSFET's as required?
🙂
🙂
About the pcb with 6 pairs of output devices on it, it depends of what size it will be (for me it would fit 35cm long and 5cm (or beter even less) wide).
Otherwise im all for only low level circuit.😀
regards,
Jure
Otherwise im all for only low level circuit.😀
regards,
Jure
I'm totaly new to the hobby and will build this amp with a professional guy, which I'm supposed to bring the parts to.
I would be glad if someone will be kind enough to help me with a part list for the most powerful version I can make..
Thanks a lot
Adam
I would be glad if someone will be kind enough to help me with a part list for the most powerful version I can make..
Thanks a lot
Adam
I might go with the small PCB with just the low level parts. that way, you're not limited in choice of heatsink/mounting.
I think it's wise to have as much as possible on one pcb. It's easier to get predictable results. I think also it's wise to start with many output transistor pairs and then scale it down if there is a market for it.Lars Clausen said:Are you guys interested in a complete PCB with all 6 sets of MOSFET's on board, or a smaller PCB with just the low level parts, to hardwire a number of MOSFET's as required?
🙂
LARS
What a wonderful idea , I will plan the output stage and post it soon , you could recomend any changes , and the end result could be useful to all .
Regarding pcb,s I know a guy here who accepts orders in small
quantities say around fifty pcs at a little additional cost , once the design is final I will ask him to give a quote and then if it is viable they can be made .
Rajeev
What a wonderful idea , I will plan the output stage and post it soon , you could recomend any changes , and the end result could be useful to all .
Regarding pcb,s I know a guy here who accepts orders in small
quantities say around fifty pcs at a little additional cost , once the design is final I will ask him to give a quote and then if it is viable they can be made .
Rajeev
Hi!
Lars and Friends,
Here in India we get good commercial quality PCB at very low costs. We can have it manufactured here in limited qunatity. One time major investment is the films for different layers that need to be made.
Most of my double sided boards are Mumbai / Pune and the finish is very good.
Regards
Rahul
Lars and Friends,
Here in India we get good commercial quality PCB at very low costs. We can have it manufactured here in limited qunatity. One time major investment is the films for different layers that need to be made.
Most of my double sided boards are Mumbai / Pune and the finish is very good.
Regards
Rahul
Hi lars,
I think complete PCB with all 6 sets of MOSFET's on board will work fine, hardwiring might lead for the osc prob, Espeacially MOSFET's.
The board can be made compact as ,http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=480507#post480507
just an hint for the above.
As rajeev & rahul said we can work for the best possible PCB quality here.
You have to make sure that you adapt short ckt Prot from your "Millennium" amp Schematic,
Thanks
Arasuk
I think complete PCB with all 6 sets of MOSFET's on board will work fine, hardwiring might lead for the osc prob, Espeacially MOSFET's.
The board can be made compact as ,http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=480507#post480507
just an hint for the above.
As rajeev & rahul said we can work for the best possible PCB quality here.
You have to make sure that you adapt short ckt Prot from your "Millennium" amp Schematic,
Thanks
Arasuk
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