Just replied to your email. The screen looks pretty damn good in high def. I ran 720p and 1080p too it and it looked awesome. See the high definition for yourself using the WMA HD format samples from here http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/content_provider/film/ContentShowcase.aspx
jaws2421 said:I just bought this panel 2 days ago and for the price it is pretty bad ***. It only has vga in, but you could get a high def component to vga adapter from these fellas http://www.vdigi.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=34. Not a bad price either (like 70-80 shipped). It is the vdigi z3.
That component to vga adapter doesn't output at the LCD's native resolution though does it? Does that matter?
Im not really sure. Try contacting the company, they are knowlegdable and answer as fast as most companies. I'll let you know when I order mine in about 2 weeks 🙂
jaws2421 said:Im not really sure. Try contacting the company, they are knowlegdable and answer as fast as most companies. I'll let you know when I order mine in about 2 weeks 🙂
oh, my bad... i thought you were using one of those already... so you're just coming out of a computer right now? Are you using powerstrip to set the resolution or just using some standard resolution? I ask cause I've heard these monitors work much better at their native resolution (which is something funky cause it's WS) and aren't really worth it at non-native resolutions. Do you concur or do you find it is acceptable at other resolutions?
A great thing about this monitor is that in the monitor's menu, you can select the ratio of the image. For instance if you used 1024x768 and left the ratio selection on full screen, then it would stretch out the 1024x768 to the entire 1280x800 making the image look horrible. If you set the ratio selection to normal, then it only utilizes 1024x768 pixels making the rest of the screen as black bars. Im gonna try to make some attachments so you can see what I mean. The first pic is at native resolution. The second and third is the ratio menu. The fourth shows you the normal ratio of 1024x768 and the last shows the 1024x768 stretched to fit the 1280x800 native resolution.
Attachments
It is a 15" lcd man, not 15.4". It even says in the spec that it is 15" with a max resolution of 1024x768. The proview is 15.4" with max resolution of 1280x800
Mfr. Part Number: EV-527
Monitor Type LCD
Analog vs Digital Info Not Available
Brightness 250 cd/m2
Built in TV Tuner No
Contrast Ratio 400:1
Maximum Resolution 1024 x 768
Other No
Product Dimensions 34.8(W) x 35.8(H) x 18.8(D) cm
Product Weight 3.5 kg
Response Time 30ms
Screen Size 15"
Mfr. Part Number: EV-527
Monitor Type LCD
Analog vs Digital Info Not Available
Brightness 250 cd/m2
Built in TV Tuner No
Contrast Ratio 400:1
Maximum Resolution 1024 x 768
Other No
Product Dimensions 34.8(W) x 35.8(H) x 18.8(D) cm
Product Weight 3.5 kg
Response Time 30ms
Screen Size 15"
An update regarding the vdigi thing. This is what the person told me
Hello Jesse,
Please realise that for HD resolution, it is as below:
480p = 640x 480
720p = 1280 x 720
1080i = 1920 x 1080
it depends on your LCD can support native resolution such as 720p or
1080i, if your LCD can support these resolution, then it should be no
problem, thanks
regards,
sales support
Hello Jesse,
Please realise that for HD resolution, it is as below:
480p = 640x 480
720p = 1280 x 720
1080i = 1920 x 1080
it depends on your LCD can support native resolution such as 720p or
1080i, if your LCD can support these resolution, then it should be no
problem, thanks
regards,
sales support
Any progress (anyone?) since mid-year--with any PJ utilizing one of these 15.4" "HD" lcd's?
Hoping someone would not-mind passing some advice re: the PL576Ws (or other 15.4" group-buys/etc.) they've played-with...
They're 'discontinued' now, and only a few are left at Staples (sole US-Distributor according to ProView) for 189. or so [minus coupons]. I'm considering 1-or-2 of these just due 'uniqueness' of res/size, but I am unsure of their 'real' utility re: HD or in PJ's. I don't want to limit-myself completely to HTPC-use, and these seemingly just-won't properly display 720p with simple 'transcoded-to-vga' that any upscaling-player can output (owing lack of 1280X800 output-settings on vDigi/other 'cheap' units that I know of yet). I may be looking for a 'dial-in' scaler (like the iScan VP30) 'someday' [used/cheap], or even 'get lucky' on something-cheaper actually supporting the 576w--but would like to hear whether 'all this fuss' is actually _worth-it_ for the savings/goals of using this lcd in a PJ...
Is it really 'justifiable' as a choice over the just-slightly-bigger, better-scaling, more-standard&higher-res, dvi-inputted 17" lcd's out-there? In anyone's opinion?
In other words, if a/any 15.4 really-does offer outstanding-utility with existing and well-priced fresnels/lenses, I'll pop for one, then check later to see if AG is on both-sides then start-searching for an 'ideal' combo of transcoder/scaler, upconverting-over-component player, and/or other design-considerations for my PJ.
What'cha thimk?
Exactly how much larger IS a ws-17", and does 15.4" keep other PJ-elements 'that much cheaper/better'?
Hoping someone would not-mind passing some advice re: the PL576Ws (or other 15.4" group-buys/etc.) they've played-with...
They're 'discontinued' now, and only a few are left at Staples (sole US-Distributor according to ProView) for 189. or so [minus coupons]. I'm considering 1-or-2 of these just due 'uniqueness' of res/size, but I am unsure of their 'real' utility re: HD or in PJ's. I don't want to limit-myself completely to HTPC-use, and these seemingly just-won't properly display 720p with simple 'transcoded-to-vga' that any upscaling-player can output (owing lack of 1280X800 output-settings on vDigi/other 'cheap' units that I know of yet). I may be looking for a 'dial-in' scaler (like the iScan VP30) 'someday' [used/cheap], or even 'get lucky' on something-cheaper actually supporting the 576w--but would like to hear whether 'all this fuss' is actually _worth-it_ for the savings/goals of using this lcd in a PJ...
Is it really 'justifiable' as a choice over the just-slightly-bigger, better-scaling, more-standard&higher-res, dvi-inputted 17" lcd's out-there? In anyone's opinion?
In other words, if a/any 15.4 really-does offer outstanding-utility with existing and well-priced fresnels/lenses, I'll pop for one, then check later to see if AG is on both-sides then start-searching for an 'ideal' combo of transcoder/scaler, upconverting-over-component player, and/or other design-considerations for my PJ.
What'cha thimk?
Exactly how much larger IS a ws-17", and does 15.4" keep other PJ-elements 'that much cheaper/better'?
Hi there,
Glad to see some activity about this after such a long time 🙂. Have a look at my thread here. Watch the video and see the size of the box. Before you conclude using a 17", simply make sure you have the room to house such a behemoth. This monitor was chosen because it was very easy to strip it and to even mount it securely. It was almost as though this monitor was made for us DIY'ers. I say that using a 15.4" or a 17" doesn't make much of a difference here depending on how much you're going to pay for a 17" with high pixel count (aka resolution). If you read through the threads, people cannot get the corners to focus in correctly (unless that issue has been resolved since i last posted by some uber sexy lense) which is definitely fine for watching movies because you barely notice it. I have used the vdigi and was dissapointed with the quality when hooked up to a progressive scan dvd player because it ran the monitor at 640x480 which just sucks for projection. I have not tried an upconvert dvd player to HD which i would almost definitely imagine would look just as good as a computer connection. I did run xbox games through the vdigi in HD and the games did look awesome, especially those that are 720p. If you use a really cheap dvd player (like $30) you will get refresh bars for some reason, but my progressive scan sony was clear. As for the monitor choice, I love it. Lol its not as good as my 20.1" I use on my computer with DVI (1680x1050) 😎. Let me know if you need anything else and hopefully i answered your questions. You only notice the poor quality on the vdigi using a standard progressive scan dvd when they show something in the movie that is in the distance. It's hard to describe but it is as though there are not enough pixel for it to display properly because it is at 640x480 causing the image to compress into a small cluster untill the camera move closer to the distant object.
Glad to see some activity about this after such a long time 🙂. Have a look at my thread here. Watch the video and see the size of the box. Before you conclude using a 17", simply make sure you have the room to house such a behemoth. This monitor was chosen because it was very easy to strip it and to even mount it securely. It was almost as though this monitor was made for us DIY'ers. I say that using a 15.4" or a 17" doesn't make much of a difference here depending on how much you're going to pay for a 17" with high pixel count (aka resolution). If you read through the threads, people cannot get the corners to focus in correctly (unless that issue has been resolved since i last posted by some uber sexy lense) which is definitely fine for watching movies because you barely notice it. I have used the vdigi and was dissapointed with the quality when hooked up to a progressive scan dvd player because it ran the monitor at 640x480 which just sucks for projection. I have not tried an upconvert dvd player to HD which i would almost definitely imagine would look just as good as a computer connection. I did run xbox games through the vdigi in HD and the games did look awesome, especially those that are 720p. If you use a really cheap dvd player (like $30) you will get refresh bars for some reason, but my progressive scan sony was clear. As for the monitor choice, I love it. Lol its not as good as my 20.1" I use on my computer with DVI (1680x1050) 😎. Let me know if you need anything else and hopefully i answered your questions. You only notice the poor quality on the vdigi using a standard progressive scan dvd when they show something in the movie that is in the distance. It's hard to describe but it is as though there are not enough pixel for it to display properly because it is at 640x480 causing the image to compress into a small cluster untill the camera move closer to the distant object.
Staples is clearing these out. I picked one up today- floor model- for cheap. Anyway... time to start looking for a nice bulb kit. I'm most likely going to get the pro lens kit from lumenlab, but wanted to try another bulb.
Didn't I see that there have been a few people around using a double ended lower wattage model with a smaller envelope for nearly equal image brightness?
Didn't I see that there have been a few people around using a double ended lower wattage model with a smaller envelope for nearly equal image brightness?
Are the 15.4" displays much bigger then a standard 15"? What are the measurements? I can pick one of these up from a shop down the street for cheap. Wouldnt mind replacing my 15" with something that has better resolution.
double-ended lamps
spamh8r:
I don't know about using lower wattage, just because your arc length is a bit smaller. exclusiv-online.com has some very nice (and I believe very popular, in the EU) double-ended lamp kits. They are 250 Watt and 400 Watt lamps, which are generally what builders in the US use.
From what I have seen, a 400 Watt lamp costs almost exactly the same as a 250 Watt lamp. The only difference will be the cost to run it, and how good it looks with some ambient light in the room. Single-panel color LCD projectors absorb a lot of the light, so they tend to be a bit lumen-challenged. Get the 400 Watt unless you have a very compelling reason to go lower.
spamh8r:
I don't know about using lower wattage, just because your arc length is a bit smaller. exclusiv-online.com has some very nice (and I believe very popular, in the EU) double-ended lamp kits. They are 250 Watt and 400 Watt lamps, which are generally what builders in the US use.
From what I have seen, a 400 Watt lamp costs almost exactly the same as a 250 Watt lamp. The only difference will be the cost to run it, and how good it looks with some ambient light in the room. Single-panel color LCD projectors absorb a lot of the light, so they tend to be a bit lumen-challenged. Get the 400 Watt unless you have a very compelling reason to go lower.
What appears to be this same monitor is now sold under the 'Norwood Micro' brand at Compusa...
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=333270&pfp=search&tabtype=ts#moreinfo
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=333270&pfp=search&tabtype=ts#moreinfo
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