My New Axe

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Hey, I have a few of guitars that carry those names......not the best guitars I have played, and the pair of Squier Strats are near the bottom of the list.

I have an old Univox branded Mosrite, excellent guitar, but I have played the fretsa off of it, so was my Hagstrom until it was stolen. Best thing I currently have? An old Guild that I call the "hammer of Thor."
 
equals a real nice axe !! 🙂
Congratulations!

Are you new to playing guitar?

I ask because inexpensive acoustic guitars often come with high action (strings too high off the fretboard), which can make it very difficult for anyone - beginners in particular - to play them.

If it exists, this is not an unsolvable problem - any good guitar tech can give a guitar a setup that includes filing the slots in the nut deeper, lowering the bridge saddle if necessary, and truss-rod adjustments if necessary. With those things done, the action can usually be brought down to finger-friendly height.

-Gnobuddy
 
> Congratulations!

Thank You !

> Are you new to playing guitar?

About 50 years worth .

> I ask because inexpensive acoustic guitars often come with high action

I've had good luck so far .

A trick I have learned ( for electro-acoustics ( which are common and of good value ) )
caveat : only works if adding magnetic pickup :

Remove the piezo under saddle pickup ( while changing to electric guitar strings )
This will lower the action .
If too low raise with spacers until right .
 
About 50 years worth.
Okay, so you know what you're dealing with! 😀

I wanted to help in case you were just starting out, and couldn't tell high action from a hole in the wall.

I have not had good luck with action when it comes to cheap acoustics, but I know how to remove and sandpaper the saddle to lower action at the bridge, and how to set the truss-rod if necessary.

I don't own a set of nut-files, though, so I've still always had to take a new acquisition to the guitar tech to sort out the most common problem - nut slots cut too shallow.

My cheapest acoustic so far was a $105 Kona thin-body acoustic-electric bought from Walmart about eight years ago. It was a handsome guitar with a cutaway, but had serious playability and quality control issues, most of which I managed to fix. Plugged in, with some careful EQ, it sounded quite good.

-Gnobuddy
 
> I wanted to help in case you were just starting out,
> and couldn't tell high action from a hole in the wall.

The happy thing is the way guitar making has evolved
since I did start out. ( early 60's )
Especially the straightness of necks. I had an early
Carvin where the trussrod actually popped through
the fingerboard (spraying frets) when I tried to adjust.
 
The happy thing is the way guitar making has evolved
since I did start out. ( early 60's )
I once owned a "Plum Blossom" acoustic guitar, made in China, that had no truss rod at all. I bought it from a Chinese classmate in college, for the princely sum of $25 USD.

Justin Timbercoe (of JustinGuitar.com, and many excellent free guitar lessons on You Tube) has a couple of interesting reviews relevant to this thread, and to the quality of cheap guitars nowadays:

1) Cheapest acoustic guitar on Amazon: YouTube

2) Cheapest electric guitar on Amazon: YouTube

-Gnobuddy
 
I have been watching a different series of YouTube video that reviews super cheap guitars. A couple of months ago I saw a review about a cheap ES335 clone on Amazon. Since I have always wanted a 335, and even though I can't play much any more, I went for it but, they were gone. It's the red one on the wall to his left in the video.

Last Wednesday I saw another video about a cheap electric, and tried to get one of the sunburst versions like in the review, but two hours after the video was posted all 120 of the colored versions were gone, and there were only 4 white ones left. I really don't know why, but I ordered one. It arrived today. It still smells like fresh paint. It's actually well made, better than my cheap Squier Strat.

As the guy said it took me about an hour and a half to set it up. The intonation was way off, the strings were a mile high and the pickups were too low. I will probably file the nut grooves a bit after I decide what gauge strings to use.

It is also far more playable than the flea marked Squier Strat that I have been using, and sounds better, so the Strat will go bye bye. I have a better Squier Strat in pieces somewhere. As for the two knobs and switch, I still haven't quite figured out how they are supposed to work, maybe I'll open it up and see how they are wired.

YouTube

I beat on it for over an hour through my blazing DIY 4 watt tube amp and DIY speaker (behind the guitar). It's really not a bad budget setup. Guitar cost me $58 with a $12 Ebay Bucks credit. Amp cost about $60 including the cabinet (not shown), and the speaker costs about $70 including plywood and paint. It will eat a 125 watt tube amp at full crank without issue.
 

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A few months back Goodwill had a Yamaha F345SY TBS for an under-3-digit price. I wasn't familiar with Yamaha models (of recent decades) but it sounded and played great in the store while I was just tuning it up. I felt like I was robbing the place.

Online research showed it discontinued but with 2010 or so list prices of $199 or $250, remarkably less than what I expected. If you see one of these used just buy it. I can't help but wonder if they stopped making this to not compete with the rest of their line.

Older Yamahas (1960s to 1980s maybe?) usually have a good sound, but it's a specific "Yamaha" sound. This just sounds like a good acoustic guitar.

I haven't really tried any instruments (other than in thrift stores, and yes I admit I have a couple $50 Squier strats), maybe others are making acoustics that sound this good in this price range.
 
thats cool!

in my country everything is either lacking in quality or very expensive

my acoustic have quite a history:

i've paid $BRL 22,00 for a kashima nylon... a friend of mine had it, but he didn't like. we used to play MMORPG known as Tibia

then he needed a premium account, one month = 22 BRL (worth less than 7 dollars)


as you can see the pics, its not good looking, i put a 'guns dont kill starvation' decal, plus a blackheart one...

then some good friends signed on my green strap

then i've installed heavy steel strings, which made the untrussed neck bend like hell. insane string height! sounds like a banjo

many many adventures in the jungle with it, since i never cared if it gets smashed or gone.

the original silver tuners of the lowest strings broke, i've replaced with golden ones, mismatching with the original higher GDE on the other side...

check this video to understand how it sounds

Guima @Double Rainbow Day 27/09/2015 - YouTube

some pics attached

i started to like my humble kashima and never cared to get another one, haha... if i had cash for it LOL!

if i could choose a new one... maybe i'd ask to live it all again.

or maybe not

edit: wandering on atlantic rainforest

YouTube

^not so good playing technique as the double rainbow day video, but quite relaxing memory
 

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Are those real inlays

Theyr'e real.

Most of the larger guitar brands actually contract out their budget lines. All of the Squiers, and Epiphones are contract built in various places. I have owned 3 Squiers, one Korean (excellent guitar but my daughter pawned it 🙁), One Mexican (OK, still have it), and one Indonesian (this Chinese guitar will replace it). I don't know where my Epiphone Les Paul was made but it is a decent guitar.

I'm told that these small lots of guitars that pop up on Amazon and Ebay are actually overruns or rejects from those contract builds. They are often painted an odd color, unbranded, or carry an odd brand, and may use different hardware than the contract piece.

Yamaha had a line of good electric guitars in the late 90's that were priced to compete with the $100 to $150 Squier Strats. They were excellent guitars, but disappeared before I got one.
 
Nice score on that guitar! It looks well made in the photo. The You Tube reviewer is one heck of a guitarist, and does a fine job of showcasing what these budget instruments can do in the hands of a really accomplished player.

Though I've felt for years that solid-body electric guitars are now overpriced, thanks to CNC and other manufacturing automation, I'm still somewhat flabbergasted to find out you can now (with a little luck and good timing) get a pretty good electric guitar for under $100.

Personally, I can hardly imagine a better way to spend $100 - my experience has been that few things give as much enjoyment for such a long time-span as a musical instrument.

Yamaha had a line of good electric guitars in the late 90's that were priced to compete with the $100 to $150 Squier Strats. They were excellent guitars, but disappeared before I got one.
Yamaha's Pacifica series are still very good, and I often see them recommended as excellent beginner guitars in the UK and Europe.

In North America, I rarely hear them recommended to beginners, probably because of unconscious loyalty to famous American brand names.

Here in Canada Pacifica guitars start at around $400 CAD, so they are not exactly cheap here.

Yamaha's acoustic guitars are excellent instruments as well - about five years ago, I tried out a lot of different acoustic guitars over a period of several weeks, and ended up with a Yamaha. The most noteworthy thing about the Yamaha acoustics was their consistency - every one I picked up was good, unlike many of the other brands I tried.

-Gnobuddy
 
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