Found the problem I was hearing and couldn't get rid of, "Never front mount your driver". Flipped the baffle around and rear mounted it, all better now.
Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpWoVOsuK7U&feature=youtu.be
Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpWoVOsuK7U&feature=youtu.be
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Hi,
Nice speakers..
I try this way, but in my case it don't works.
Using a W5 1611 TB Speaker on open baffle (12 inches widht), I make near field mesurement :
Phil.
Nice speakers..
I try this way, but in my case it don't works.
Using a W5 1611 TB Speaker on open baffle (12 inches widht), I make near field mesurement :
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Phil.
I guess I don't understand why you think it doesn't work good? could you explain more as to why you don't like it? (are you going by what your measurement says? or what your ears say?) When I had mine front mounted there was a non natural sound to them. that's why I went to rear mounting and now they sound uncolored. I would think having your driver that close to the edge they would be canceling out quite early? not to mention the baffle step must be pretty steep having your driver that close to the edge.
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Hard to tell definitely from the video but I've heard several small open baffle Fostex drivers which are driven too hard and into distortion. You would be so much better off with a large woofer to cover the lowest bass region and then use a crossover to the full range driver ala Martin J. King ideas from several years ago. Real bass with a relaxed and more accurate overall sound.
Quarter Wavelength Loudspeaker Design
Addition: For cradeldorf: BTW open baffle speakers radiate into 4 pi space so they don't need baffle step correction. Mounting the driver too close to the edge of the baffle will shorten the path length from front to back in an open back design. That raises the short-circuit frequency for the open back speaker which means that the 6 dB per octave roll off is negatively impacted.
Quarter Wavelength Loudspeaker Design
Addition: For cradeldorf: BTW open baffle speakers radiate into 4 pi space so they don't need baffle step correction. Mounting the driver too close to the edge of the baffle will shorten the path length from front to back in an open back design. That raises the short-circuit frequency for the open back speaker which means that the 6 dB per octave roll off is negatively impacted.
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Thanks Jim, I actually have a 12" dayton sub going too. You probably can't see it in the video. And I agree with all that you have said.
Okay, today I added some 4" carpet strips to the edge of my baffles front and back and removed all crossover parts. This is where they are as of tonight.
Here's a video of them in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNRnjX4a9XU&feature=youtu.be
Okay, today I added some 4" carpet strips to the edge of my baffles front and back and removed all crossover parts. This is where they are as of tonight.
Here's a video of them in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNRnjX4a9XU&feature=youtu.be
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Thanks to Jim, At 3:30 am I decided to stuff the Alphas back into the baffles and give them another chance. I ended up with the martin king original HP filter (24uf cap 4mh coil) The trick was to reverse the polarity of them. On the LF side I went with a 1st order with a 1.5mh coil. It's better sounding than it was. I'm also still running the sub for the floor shake, gotta have it for movies.
Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqOuPQLcxWU&feature=youtu.be
Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqOuPQLcxWU&feature=youtu.be
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Thanks Jim on both counts. I actually built Martins OB's about a year ago so I had all the parts.Sounds better to me. More bass and a good balance with the Fostex. Excellent progress.
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Just an update, been playing around with some carpet on the baffles. They look God ugly but boy do they sound nice. Sorry I can't convey the total experience but I'll give ya what my camera is capable of recording.
Video Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzd2aSIX0kQ&feature=youtu.be
Video Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzd2aSIX0kQ&feature=youtu.be
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Here's a little Sunday Morning Jazz Brunch. Much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWmbzZtllXs&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWmbzZtllXs&feature=youtu.be
Just an update, been playing around with some carpet on the baffles. They look God ugly but boy do they sound nice. Sorry I can't convey the total experience but I'll give ya what my camera is capable of recording.
Video Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzd2aSIX0kQ&feature=youtu.be
Ha ha...you need to put a quarter up to those or a pack of cigarettes for scale.
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