Hi Guys,
This is my first post, and my first build. Please bare with me...
I am planning to build a Transmission Line spiralled Loud Speaker. Yes, this will resemble the Nautilus, but that wasn't intentional from the offset.
The build will be made from Baltic Birch Ply segments glued together. Has anyone else tried this kind of builder before.
Attached is picture of what it should like when finished.

Also, has anyone ever put ceiling speakers in a floor standing cabinet?
This is my first post, and my first build. Please bare with me...
I am planning to build a Transmission Line spiralled Loud Speaker. Yes, this will resemble the Nautilus, but that wasn't intentional from the offset.
The build will be made from Baltic Birch Ply segments glued together. Has anyone else tried this kind of builder before.
Attached is picture of what it should like when finished.

Also, has anyone ever put ceiling speakers in a floor standing cabinet?
Welcome to diyAudio Sparrowlegs. I've moved this over to the full range forum as you won't get many replies in the intro's section.
Looks interesting 🙂
Looks interesting 🙂
Sparrowlegs,
Is the TL quarter-wave (open terminus) or half-wave (closed)?
From your sletches i see 2 immediate issues. 1/ you are not taking advantage of driver offset to reduce the 1st undersired harmonic (less of an issue with 1/2 wave), and 2/ it is likely that your line is starting out far too small. Are you modeling this with something like MJK?
dave
Is the TL quarter-wave (open terminus) or half-wave (closed)?
From your sletches i see 2 immediate issues. 1/ you are not taking advantage of driver offset to reduce the 1st undersired harmonic (less of an issue with 1/2 wave), and 2/ it is likely that your line is starting out far too small. Are you modeling this with something like MJK?
dave
There is one school of TLS design were the idea is to lose all back radiation from the driver in the line. What you have is then similar to a closed box with resistive losses.This is very different from the TLS that use the quarter wave resonance to agument bass output similar to the port of a bass reflex speaker. So do clarify the type of TLS that you want to build.
Hi Planet10,
This is where the fun begins. I don't know what the difference is between half and quarter wave? Looking it up now, but a brief overview would be grateful.
With regard to the driver, my design actually isn't strictly correct. Once the spiral hits 12 o'clock, the line will continue to the vertical till the driver runs flush with the belly.
Though I am not a true audiophile, I am able to construct interesting shapes.
This particular project will be made from Baltic Birch Ply.
This is where the fun begins. I don't know what the difference is between half and quarter wave? Looking it up now, but a brief overview would be grateful.
With regard to the driver, my design actually isn't strictly correct. Once the spiral hits 12 o'clock, the line will continue to the vertical till the driver runs flush with the belly.
Though I am not a true audiophile, I am able to construct interesting shapes.
This particular project will be made from Baltic Birch Ply.
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Notwithstanding the questions of the desirability / acoustic performance of such a design, do you have any idea as to the complexity and material yield of such a fabrication technique?
I'm not saying it shouldn't or can't be done in wood, but as a first build, it'd be a very ambitious undertaking
I'm not saying it shouldn't or can't be done in wood, but as a first build, it'd be a very ambitious undertaking
With regards to the complexity of the build, this isn't hard when using a computer to model. I have done all the drawings and plotted it onto a CAD. It's now ready to be CNC Milled. I have to 3D mill, as it's the only way I can get a gradient on ply without ripping the veneers, (IE you can't plane ply.)
I will admit it will be time consuming piecing it all together, but the technical work wasn't the problem.
This is intended to be a closed unit, though I was planning to test as I go along, IE if there's any difference having a plug in the centre section.
Still trying to get my head around half and quarter wave TL. Any overview welcome.
I will admit it will be time consuming piecing it all together, but the technical work wasn't the problem.
This is intended to be a closed unit, though I was planning to test as I go along, IE if there's any difference having a plug in the centre section.
Still trying to get my head around half and quarter wave TL. Any overview welcome.
This is intended to be a closed unit
Then it is half-wave. What is the internal volume? What driver are you using?
dave
More aimed at quarter-wave designs, but a must read before you finalize the design.
Quarter Wavelength Loudspeaker Design
dave
Quarter Wavelength Loudspeaker Design
dave
I am working out the volume now, though it may take me half hour. With regards to the driver, this is why I was asking at the very beginning what the opinion of using a ceiling speaker for a floor standing cabinet.
I have a pair of Bower & Wilkins CCM663 knocking around.
Cheers for the link, I found this earlier, still trying to understand what Martin is talking about.
I have a pair of Bower & Wilkins CCM663 knocking around.
Cheers for the link, I found this earlier, still trying to understand what Martin is talking about.
I designed a few months ago, a similar solution (spiral). It's a good way of work..... still trying to understand what Martin is talking about.
All the best
RK
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The Volume is 43914831.29 mm3 (43.91Litres). Dave, your really are pointing out that I have no idea!
How do I go about designing the line based on the driver?
How do I go about designing the line based on the driver?
You might want to check out the Cornu thread. A spiral back loaded horn with 4 mouths is easy to build in foam core and plywood and is a tested and simulated design. It sounds quite nice.
xrk971, is this the tread your referring to? http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full...k-building-cornu-spiral-horn-now-you-can.html
So far I am reading -
The Art of Speaker Design
Quarter Wavelength Loudspeaker Design
Audio stuff | Anil Advani
So far I am reading -
The Art of Speaker Design
Quarter Wavelength Loudspeaker Design
Audio stuff | Anil Advani
Going back to my original question, has anyone installed ceiling speaker drivers in a floor standing cabinet?
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