just desolder one good output and measure is it bipolar transistor ;
then we'll know more
also - look are these small BC (or MPSA) cooked transistors - actually zenner followers for stabilization ?
in that case - bigger resistors and bigger transistors ; any darlington .... BDX53 and BDX54 , for instance
then we'll know more
also - look are these small BC (or MPSA) cooked transistors - actually zenner followers for stabilization ?
in that case - bigger resistors and bigger transistors ; any darlington .... BDX53 and BDX54 , for instance
o/p devices
ok guys thanks. i will rip a good output device out and measure it - now can anyone remind me how measure and tell if its mos or bipolar !
been a while 🙂
ok guys thanks. i will rip a good output device out and measure it - now can anyone remind me how measure and tell if its mos or bipolar !
been a while 🙂
I am not in the habit of giving misleading information. I have repaired a number of these units, mixed 150 and 300. They are the same, exept in the amount of output devices.
As you can see, the pc board is charred from excessive heat dissipation. It would be in your best interest to replace the components in that area as well. There is some discrepancy between the schematic, and the actual value of the components. I seem to recall that there are two resistors with the value of 1K. Uprate these to 1-2W. Also replace the four small signal transistors in the area. Leave the legs as long as possible, it will help dissipate heat.
Regards
Roar
As you can see, the pc board is charred from excessive heat dissipation. It would be in your best interest to replace the components in that area as well. There is some discrepancy between the schematic, and the actual value of the components. I seem to recall that there are two resistors with the value of 1K. Uprate these to 1-2W. Also replace the four small signal transistors in the area. Leave the legs as long as possible, it will help dissipate heat.
Regards
Roar
op devs
roar, many many thanks
i only asked as someone earlier in the thread stated they were lateral mosfets
will also uprate the resistors, yes they are 1k0 and only 1/4 watt !
thanks to everyone here for such an excellent response
roar, many many thanks
i only asked as someone earlier in the thread stated they were lateral mosfets
will also uprate the resistors, yes they are 1k0 and only 1/4 watt !
thanks to everyone here for such an excellent response
bias
thanks to all the helpful people here ive sourced the parts and am very close to having rebuilt it all. stripped it down ,cleaned and replaced any thermally damaged parts and tested eveything.
one more question guys, will i need to reset the bias? is there a good method to do this ?
thanks again
thanks to all the helpful people here ive sourced the parts and am very close to having rebuilt it all. stripped it down ,cleaned and replaced any thermally damaged parts and tested eveything.
one more question guys, will i need to reset the bias? is there a good method to do this ?
thanks again
2sd669a 649a
well after repairing my amp i was measuring volt drop across the emitter resistors ,slipped with probe and have damaged the above i think they are 2sd669a and 2sd649a .
can anyone suggest an equivalent cant find these anywhere....
thanks again
well after repairing my amp i was measuring volt drop across the emitter resistors ,slipped with probe and have damaged the above i think they are 2sd669a and 2sd649a .
can anyone suggest an equivalent cant find these anywhere....
thanks again
My my what a naughty boy. The probe slipped indeed. Well, life is pain, get used to it. I normally use 2SA1358 ad 2SC3421.
Regards
Roar
Regards
Roar
well actually i shorted out a link in the board to the end of a the resistor i was measuring across - serves me right for trying to adjust bias and hold two probes at same time - should have found some croc clips !
thanks again- what do u normally set the bias at in the repairs u have done?
thanks again- what do u normally set the bias at in the repairs u have done?
There is no recommendation for bias voltage on the schematic, but I normally adjust them to 2-3mVDC across the R47 emitter resistor. There is not thermal capacity for much more, as you have the heatsink inside the cabinet.
Regards
Roar
Regards
Roar
Generally, I share what circuit diagrams that I have. However, diagrams given to me in confidence, I do not share. I do most repair on MF in Norway on behalf of the importer, so I can not give you the diagram. I can, however, help you with advice.
I once gave up a ML diagram with the agreement that it were for his eyes only, and to guide him with the repair of his amp, only to find it on display on a rather well known danish site. I didn`t like that.
Regards
Roar
I once gave up a ML diagram with the agreement that it were for his eyes only, and to guide him with the repair of his amp, only to find it on display on a rather well known danish site. I didn`t like that.
Regards
Roar
thanks
totally understand, not a problem.
will try and find some of those toshiba devices you suggested on monday and see how i get on.
the amp seemed to working perfectly until i caused the short .
silly me.
thanks for your time and advice
totally understand, not a problem.
will try and find some of those toshiba devices you suggested on monday and see how i get on.
the amp seemed to working perfectly until i caused the short .
silly me.
thanks for your time and advice
sorry to be a pain there is one more transistor which im going to replace it is labelled c33725, again i can't find any of these , could u suggest an alternative?
thanks
thanks
There is no such transistor. The 2SC series are followed by four digits, not five, so you must be in error. There is, however, one labelled BC337, and it is close to MPSA43 / MPSA93. It is, I believe, labelled Tr202. It is part of the mute circuit. It should be very close to the big bridge rectifier.
Regards
Roar
Regards
Roar
ah silly me they are labelled c33725 , so i presumed they were 2sc.....
but they are obviously bc337's then, they are used in tr8,9,201,202 etc
my electronic skills are rusty ! thanks
but they are obviously bc337's then, they are used in tr8,9,201,202 etc
my electronic skills are rusty ! thanks
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