MTM Driver Placement?

From my own experience, an MTM is where a wave guided tweeter will come into practical use. The WG places the acoustic center further back, closer in line with the LF drivers and also allows for a lower xover, both which can improve the power response off axis and widen the main lobe. Even with increased CTC spacing from the WG, the two listed benefits can prevail. Increasing HF directivity down low to match the LF directivity around the xover point helps as well.
Do you think this would work better in this case?
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.c...bnwg-4-beryllium-dome-tweeter-with-waveguide/
C-C distancing (mid - tweeter anyway)will still be able to be within 1 wavelength.
Angling in both LF drivers vertically on the baffle can improve things too.
Like in the Focal Grande Utopia speakers?
 
Got it - I hadn't realised just how low-powered and low efficiency the mids were until I looked them up!
Yeah their efficiency isn’t the best, I was going to go with a single point source Dayton PS220-8 (96.5db efficient). But I’ve heard a lot of good things about the Satori Papyrus drivers (I heard a number of the engineers that designed Scanspeak Drivers also design drivers for SB Acoustics and that they perform very similarly for much less since they’re manufactured in Indonesia)

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Also I could only find RMS or long term power rating for wattage on the MW19p’s (70 watts), but not the short term power rating.
 
Interesting, do you have any examples by chance?
No, it was a top of the head kinda thing that might help deal with a large tweeter faceplate. There are a number of persons who have rear mounted a dome tweeter and made the baffle into a mini waveguide / horn but if they are diy, I wouldn't necessarily remember the name of the project or who built it.
 
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Like in the Focal Grande Utopia speakers?
I suspect they had something else in mind.

I don't think you want to go angling the drivers on your baffle.. but when it's done it's often better to angle them away from each other...

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Right, we used tilted forward only for creating the best overall polar response over the HT's desired coverage angles where the HF horn's pattern dominated; also the baffle design plays a (big) role in all this, so while a circular driver is ~uniform it still requires using the right size drivers and/or at least the right XO point/slope + TD, BSC to get the best overall performance, so assume the Focal's entire box is a part of the design vs most folks just focusing on the MTM area's total response and assume it's the main reason so many of the consumer MTMs I've auditioned had me moving away PDQ, to the point where some folks just considered me flat out rude, ignorant WRT audio system SQ.
 
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