i can see a highly stressed turntable with all those cds around...
you may want to include individual gate stopper resistors on your input fets.
peter
you may want to include individual gate stopper resistors on your input fets.
peter
First of all: Decoupling caps! Try to put 10-100 nF, ceramic or polyester (small 63 V are good!) in parallel with your big mamas. You may also have too high ground impedance, small and thin copper traces.
I think also that your parallel connection of the output stage is unwise. Try to insert source resistors so you have a controlled current sharing. Make the value 1/10 or 1/5 of the total value. The result is attenuation of 0.9 or 0.8.
I suggest also that you increase the current of the output buffer to as much as the fet's can stand. Otherwise you will get a rather high output impedance (loss of high frequencies).
R1 is a little bit high I think. I would have chosen 100-390 ohms. In fact it's better to have lower R and bigger C's. If you have a "stable" power supply voltage you will probely have better chances of getting stability.
Have you considered the output impedance of the first stage which feeds the RIAA network? I think you will get an error here due to unsufficient drive capability.
Hope this can be to any help.
I think also that your parallel connection of the output stage is unwise. Try to insert source resistors so you have a controlled current sharing. Make the value 1/10 or 1/5 of the total value. The result is attenuation of 0.9 or 0.8.
I suggest also that you increase the current of the output buffer to as much as the fet's can stand. Otherwise you will get a rather high output impedance (loss of high frequencies).
R1 is a little bit high I think. I would have chosen 100-390 ohms. In fact it's better to have lower R and bigger C's. If you have a "stable" power supply voltage you will probely have better chances of getting stability.
Have you considered the output impedance of the first stage which feeds the RIAA network? I think you will get an error here due to unsufficient drive capability.
Hope this can be to any help.
RIAA network
Ah.....where did you get the resisor and capacitor values from?? You might want to check them. I do not believe that they are correct.
Jocko
Ah.....where did you get the resisor and capacitor values from?? You might want to check them. I do not believe that they are correct.
Jocko
The input stage
The input stage has very little gain if I'm not mistaken, approx. < 5. The sources of the input JFET's must be decoupled if you want higher gain. The caps must be big, > 1000 µF at each fet. Haven't done any calculating so the value is rough.
The DC gain (or at 50 Hz) must be 300 to 1000 depending on pickup.
As Jocko Homo notice, the RIAA network don't look right...but I haven't done a calculations here either.
I suspect that you want to design this RIAA amp by yourself but if you want to take a shortcut, take a peek at Nelson Pass' (or Mr Wayne Colburn's) Pearl phono amp. The basic idea is the same.
http://www.passdiy.com/projects/pearlono1.htm
The input stage has very little gain if I'm not mistaken, approx. < 5. The sources of the input JFET's must be decoupled if you want higher gain. The caps must be big, > 1000 µF at each fet. Haven't done any calculating so the value is rough.
The DC gain (or at 50 Hz) must be 300 to 1000 depending on pickup.
As Jocko Homo notice, the RIAA network don't look right...but I haven't done a calculations here either.
I suspect that you want to design this RIAA amp by yourself but if you want to take a shortcut, take a peek at Nelson Pass' (or Mr Wayne Colburn's) Pearl phono amp. The basic idea is the same.
http://www.passdiy.com/projects/pearlono1.htm
Drop the whole front-end and replace it with a single 2SK170BL. Run it without feedback or just a small source resistor (10-20R), and load it with 1-2k or so.
Recalculate the RIAA.
Indeed, look at the Pearl or the Pacific for inspiration.
Recalculate the RIAA.
Indeed, look at the Pearl or the Pacific for inspiration.
Now it's looking better. Don't forget the 100nF in parallel with the big caps. Also skip the gate resistors, adds noise. Use them ONLY if you are having trouble unstability.
dhengkoel said:
dhengkoel,
in your last schematic, you would overload Q2, because it must take several times nearly the full Idss of the input JFETs.
BTW, the 2SK30 is not happy when paralleling in phono input stages. I tried it. One is enough - if not take a 2SK170, as Werner already said.
BTW (2), the 2SK30 has low internal capacitances, and a very high output impedance. You do more harm with cascoding that input stage, than getting benefits, if at all.
So, please, make your circuit simpler. A single 2SK30 in the input, without cascode, that is enough.
regards,
Hartmut
Wrong, wrong ,wrong,, wrong..........
Just add them and you won't have to worry about it. Or the noise.
Jocko
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