Misophonia

One of my nephews here in Japan suffers from this ailment. For him it is the sniffing sound. Anger is socially unacceptable, so his manifests as anxiety/panic and stomach issues instead. Noise cancelling devices and medication enable him to remain enrolled and successful at uni.

Such a nice kid. I feel bad for him.
Not trying to pick on an ailment but feeling a surge of anger rise is very human. Using a gearbox and selecting neutral is also a human thing. One should try to follow up the surge with a weighting of the anger. Instantly pull up a perspective on the anger just risen vs the need for that anger. Is the anger worthy to keep, was the cause that great? Why are audio folks full of so much bile? How do you folks aspire to DIY things of beauty while suffering from so much bile? Learn to laugh off most of the causes by thinking of them as the satire of life and living. Everything brought up so far does not sound like worthy of anger. A sneer or a snort of derision maybe, but not anger
 
You assume this is just some normal, rational response to annoying sounds.

You are wrong, and many of the responses in this thread are misleading, including mine about Trudeau.

This is a real mental disability. It is unfortunate that the thread has been diverted into merely annoying sounds.

My nephew truly suffers, as does the OP, I am sure.
 
his is a real mental disability. It is unfortunate that the thread has been diverted into merely annoying sounds.
I absolutely agree with you cogitech. I myself did wander off and include just some "normal" dislikes, that of course you can "turn a deaf ear too" The real symptoms Misophonia are far more severe and extremely hard to ignore or even cope with. It can manifest itself as real mental crushing pain. Many phobias can be treated by immersion and being force fed until the sufferer becomes immune to whatever is causing the reaction. However, with this particular one, I'm really not sure I could ever become less sensitive to many of the sounds that cause me the reaction and distress, unless I was made nearly unconscious with drug therapy.
 
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You assume this is just some normal, rational response to annoying sounds.
Is it the ailment that causes the anger to rise, or is the anger the ailment. Seems the anger is the result of the ailment. Is that anger of a variety that cannot be managed with perspective and breathing exercises?

I'm really not sure I could ever become less sensitive to many of the sounds
Have you ever tried to focus deeper on this? Sometimes tempering the environment helps. Is there a playlist that brings so much joy that if you have it playing all the time, maybe you would be too busy enjoying the good source to pick up on the triggering sounds from elsewhere? Anger rises but it should also be managed. There is a song from Daddy Yankee called Bailando Fue. This one can't help but ease any mental difficulty that I am feeling. Just think of the gyal you saw dancing
 
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Is it the ailment that causes the anger to rise, or is the anger the ailment?
I've given the reaction some thought, and I would say it is both in the same order you ask. The sound causes the reaction, the anger follows, and heightens the bad reaction. When we hear we don't just hear like a tape recorder, it causes a human reaction. That reaction is moulded by what the sound says to us. If we hear a bang, we fear the sound and we jump to help move our body to avoid a pending injury. When I hear a yogurt pot being tapped with a teaspoon, it says many things to me. First the sound is irritating and somehow, I hate it. This is heightened by the fact that another human is causing it oblivious to the knowledge that it is irritating to me. This also creates its own annoyance. Then there is the reaction to the stupidity of that person doing the tapping. The result is that if I didn't react, I would not be able to stand it and feel trapped and then react to try to stop the noise. If I hold back the anger increases. Breathing exercises would not work. Also unwanted "nasty" sounds cause me emotional pain as I feel I should not have to endure them ever! The rise in anger is my brain/body reacting to give me the power to physically end the noise should the suffering become too much to bare.
 
Not trying to pick on an ailment but feeling a surge of anger rise is very human. Using a gearbox and selecting neutral is also a human thing. One should try to follow up the surge with a weighting of the anger. Instantly pull up a perspective on the anger just risen vs the need for that anger. Is the anger worthy to keep, was the cause that great? Why are audio folks full of so much bile? How do you folks aspire to DIY things of beauty while suffering from so much bile? Learn to laugh off most of the causes by thinking of them as the satire of life and living. Everything brought up so far does not sound like worthy of anger. A sneer or a snort of derision maybe, but not anger
I should introduce you to my wife. Is your death and disability insurance up to date? 😉

AFAIK..., some part of the brain associated with assessing danger for "fight or flight" reflexes become oversensitized to innocuous stimuli, basically a "man in the middle" that hijacks the decision-making, before the rational mind ever finds out that there was a sound. Even though the rational mind can then unwind the emotional response, there seems to be a positive feedback loop in that the person is incentivised to protect themselves against future unwanted emotions, so they train to strengthen their reflexes.

Try explaining any of that to an emotionally-driven person, who trusts their intuition over their rational self every time.
 
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You assume this is just some normal, rational response to annoying sounds.

You are wrong, and many of the responses in this thread are misleading, including mine about Trudeau.

This is a real mental disability. It is unfortunate that the thread has been diverted into merely annoying sounds.

My nephew truly suffers, as does the OP, I am sure.

Yes, I knew that too when I wrote about Trump. Sorry about that. I didn't intend to make light of the plight of sufferers.