You could have an optic at this: Wolf's 8" 2 way. The tweeter is NLA but he's suggested an alternative, I think a SEAS:
https://techtalk.parts-express.com/...roven-zingers-an-indiyana-2019-8-2-way-design
Geoff
https://techtalk.parts-express.com/...roven-zingers-an-indiyana-2019-8-2-way-design
Geoff
Jule Fidelity
https://www.jfcomponents.com/jfpro-speakers (out of stock for now)
MAC-466 3way tower kit, Dome tweeter, 4" midrange, dual 6.5"woofers
https://www.jfcomponents.com/product-page/mac-466-speaker-kit-pair
YTmac-05 2 way kit, 5" woofer
https://www.jfcomponents.com/product-page/ytmac-05-speaker-kit-pair
https://diy.midwestaudio.club/discussion/2462/yt-05
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https://diy.midwestaudio.club/discussion/comment/51597#Comment_51597
hifiside
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My subjective review on the YTmac-05.
Speaker placement around 8’6” apart and 44” from rear wall. Slightly towed in around 3/4”
Playing Bad Bunny ‘MIA’ for my low bass track (careful on the volume). The low bass fills the room well for a 5” I’m very pleased with the bass. Playing Donald Fagen ‘morph the cat’ the bass stays tight and loud with no chuffing of the port which any speaker I build MUST DO or there scrapped.
Playing 2Pac ‘dear mama’ for upper bass low midrange as Pac should stay exactly in the center of the stage I thought his gurgling voice sounded perfect while handling the (rap) bass notes. Also playing Eric Godoy’s “Aeris” for the low strings in this. I thought the strings sounded just thick enough and the background chatter (recorded in a bar) is still very audible.
For mine and many others I’m sure, i played the usual vocal artists. I believe the staging is open and does stretch well beyond the speaker placement Amber Rubarth “full moon in Paris” and with the speaker out at 5ft they almost disappear. With the speaker, I really tried to make the mid range and top end very neutral. The only hot sounding music would be some 80s hard rock like Kix, Autograph and Headpins certain songs.
Like I said, this is subjective obviously, but I will be keeping these so they will be at DDIY and Iowa 2024.
https://www.jfcomponents.com/jfpro-speakers (out of stock for now)
MAC-466 3way tower kit, Dome tweeter, 4" midrange, dual 6.5"woofers
https://www.jfcomponents.com/product-page/mac-466-speaker-kit-pair
YTmac-05 2 way kit, 5" woofer
https://www.jfcomponents.com/product-page/ytmac-05-speaker-kit-pair
https://diy.midwestaudio.club/discussion/2462/yt-05
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https://diy.midwestaudio.club/discussion/comment/51597#Comment_51597
hifiside
March 9 edited March 9
My subjective review on the YTmac-05.
Speaker placement around 8’6” apart and 44” from rear wall. Slightly towed in around 3/4”
Playing Bad Bunny ‘MIA’ for my low bass track (careful on the volume). The low bass fills the room well for a 5” I’m very pleased with the bass. Playing Donald Fagen ‘morph the cat’ the bass stays tight and loud with no chuffing of the port which any speaker I build MUST DO or there scrapped.
Playing 2Pac ‘dear mama’ for upper bass low midrange as Pac should stay exactly in the center of the stage I thought his gurgling voice sounded perfect while handling the (rap) bass notes. Also playing Eric Godoy’s “Aeris” for the low strings in this. I thought the strings sounded just thick enough and the background chatter (recorded in a bar) is still very audible.
For mine and many others I’m sure, i played the usual vocal artists. I believe the staging is open and does stretch well beyond the speaker placement Amber Rubarth “full moon in Paris” and with the speaker out at 5ft they almost disappear. With the speaker, I really tried to make the mid range and top end very neutral. The only hot sounding music would be some 80s hard rock like Kix, Autograph and Headpins certain songs.
Like I said, this is subjective obviously, but I will be keeping these so they will be at DDIY and Iowa 2024.
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Ampslab
https://ampslab-spk.com/hifi-drivers-2/
Peerless 830870
https://ampslab-spk.com/2018/05/20/peerless-830870/
Add the woofer
https://ampslab-spk.com/2019/11/01/solitaire-2/
https://ampslab-spk.com/hifi-drivers-2/
Peerless 830870
https://ampslab-spk.com/2018/05/20/peerless-830870/
Add the woofer
https://ampslab-spk.com/2019/11/01/solitaire-2/
Thanks for all the inputs. It’s given me much to think about. I had originally thought of a Linton clone, but a 2way looks interesting. I used to have some large Advents that I liked, and was thinking of something similar, with a little more presents.
What's your room size and budget not including cabinets, please?
Will give people a better basis on which to help you. In the meantime, if you like big 3 ways, check out Paul's Tarkus and Pit Viper builds.
However, three way crossovers have many parts, including some high value and there will be more $$ than for a two way. I would also add that while I've built several two ways, 3 way crossovers scare the heck out of me in terms of soldering and connections.
Geoff
Will give people a better basis on which to help you. In the meantime, if you like big 3 ways, check out Paul's Tarkus and Pit Viper builds.
However, three way crossovers have many parts, including some high value and there will be more $$ than for a two way. I would also add that while I've built several two ways, 3 way crossovers scare the heck out of me in terms of soldering and connections.
Geoff
3-way as said is more difficult to do successfully, and likely more expensive.
Larger format 2-ways, I'm going to link the A26 Devore clones, the Seas Aphel project, and Troels' latest Seas-22; they all have some things in common
https://www.seas.no/index.php?optio...s-aphel-kit&catid=66:seas-diy-kits&Itemid=345
https://www.troelsgravesen.dk/SEAS-22.htm
Jule Fidelity
The Chachos "By Craig Salin"
$125 usd Pair (same 4" as the 3way kit)
https://www.jfcomponents.com/product-page/the-chachos-speaker-kit-pair
(or any 2 way you may choose)
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Later you could add a woofer module...
The Kairos and Continuum Three-Way by Jeff Bagby (RIP)
https://app.box.com/s/a4bqr447s7ox7v9kt7r9tjui0h7yqkrv
Parts Express 10" woofers
https://www.parts-express.com/speak...ofers/nominaldiameter/10?order=base_price:asc
Ampslab
https://ampslab-spk.com/hifi-d
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Make it look like a Tarkus
https://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/floorstanding-speakers/tarkus
The Chachos "By Craig Salin"
$125 usd Pair (same 4" as the 3way kit)
https://www.jfcomponents.com/product-page/the-chachos-speaker-kit-pair
(or any 2 way you may choose)
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Later you could add a woofer module...
The Kairos and Continuum Three-Way by Jeff Bagby (RIP)
https://app.box.com/s/a4bqr447s7ox7v9kt7r9tjui0h7yqkrv
Parts Express 10" woofers
https://www.parts-express.com/speak...ofers/nominaldiameter/10?order=base_price:asc
Ampslab
https://ampslab-spk.com/hifi-d
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Make it look like a Tarkus
https://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/floorstanding-speakers/tarkus
Attachments
???
https://www.superbestaudiofriends.o...cheap-three-way-speaker-with-15-woofer.12974/
DIY Cheap Three-Way Speaker with 15" Woofer
- Eminence Kappa 15LFA 15” Woofer, retail price $130
- Eminence Beta 6A 6.5” Midrange, retail price $65*
- Dayton Audio RST28F-4 1.25” 4-Ohm Fabric Dome Tweeter, retail price $37
- The cabinet is 7.5 cu.f ft. Ports were x2 4" diameter.
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(The 6.5" midrange looks tiny)
Hi Julian,
With the rs225p you can use a rs100-4
According to this tests : https://www.justdiyit.com/grand-comparatif-medium-et-large-bande-partie-1/
Note A 3 ways is hard to make without tools. Try to find a kit or someone who have measurements tools. The placement of the speaker driver on the box is the first step and it is very important to have a smooth response and use less components in the crossover.
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RS225 3 ways
HT Guide (*not a 4 or 5" mid)
https://www.htguide.com/forum/missi...dayton-3-way-build-thread-rs225-rs52fn-rst28f
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$$$ ? Travelers
Hiquphon OW2 tweeter, SB Acoustics SB15CAC30-8 Mid, Dayton RS225 Woofer
- Speakerdesign Works (Crossover details)- Curt Campbell & Jim Holtz design.
Meniscus had a kit but they closed down.
https://techtalk.parts-express.com/...ery/1428596-the-travelers-new-year-new-design
post# 37 MLTL Travelers Box-Dayton RS225
https://meniscusaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Travelers-Speakers-Cabinet-Drawing.pdf
https://www.speakerdesignworks.com/
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hifijim-
Terra-Incognita
SB Acoustics SB26STEGC tweeter, SB15CRC30-8 Mid, Dayton RS225-8 Woofer, Passive Radiator
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/attachments/terra-incognita-mt8-3pr-design-document-pdf.1376652/
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PE Simulations
https://techtalk.parts-express.com/...19-please-review-this-sim-rs28f-rs150p-rs225p
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"Inlaws"
SB19 tweeter, Peerless TG9FD10-08 Fullrange, Dayton RS225-8 Woofer
https://techtalk.parts-express.com/forum/tech-talk-forum/1280829-inlaws-rs225-tg9-sb19-3-way
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Dayton RS225 2 way
Google Translate
https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&op=translate
Vietnam- Maybelle Audio
Dayton RST28F-4 Tweeter, Dayton RS225P-8A Woofer
https://linhkienloadai.vn/blogs/du-...kshelf-2-way-su-dung-dayton-audio-rs225p-8a-v
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Similar
https://projectgallery.parts-express.com/speaker-projects/two-way-dayton-audio/
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xrk971
10F/8424 & RS225-8 FAST / WAW Ref Monitor
(other Fullrange options, somewhere in there)
Some sound clips of this speaker recorded with my phone and powered by my SuSyLu 100w Class A amp:
Test of SuSyLu 100W Class A Amp - YouTube
Example of speaker in dark “espresso brown” stain and satin lacquer with Duratex coated baffle.
Example of beautiful build by as8912:
Another Example of a...
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Some sound clips of this speaker recorded with my phone and powered by my SuSyLu 100w Class A amp:
Test of SuSyLu 100W Class A Amp - YouTube
Example of speaker in dark “espresso brown” stain and satin lacquer with Duratex coated baffle.
Example of beautiful build by as8912:
Another Example of a...
Test of SuSyLu 100W Class A Amp - YouTube
Example of speaker in dark “espresso brown” stain and satin lacquer with Duratex coated baffle.
Example of beautiful build by as8912:
Another Example of a...
Avalon Eidolin type (* not a RS225 8", not a 4 or5" mid)
Drivers: Dayton Audio RST28F-4, RS52FN-8, RS270-8 woofer 10"
Simple crossover, complicated box
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I don’t mind buying a calibrated mic., I have a computer, what else do I need,? I assume I can generate test tones with the computer. One approach is to reverse engineer similar speakers, and build a database to work from. Laborious I know. But this is entertainment.
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Yes you can simulate a crossover without measurements. You can do it with response curves and apply diffraction on them or with standard models of drivers, it is less precise. I use the two methods because it avoid me to buy the drivers, and I am lazy.
The reverse engineering is useful to model a crossover 🙂
A three ways with a 4/5" is not easy to build and make it sounds good but if you have the patience. I have build several three ways and they worth the time I spend of them 🙂 They work better than my two ways because they have better details, better LF and HF extensions, better openness.
The reverse engineering is useful to model a crossover 🙂
A three ways with a 4/5" is not easy to build and make it sounds good but if you have the patience. I have build several three ways and they worth the time I spend of them 🙂 They work better than my two ways because they have better details, better LF and HF extensions, better openness.