That's jolly decent of you 😀 . I reckon if you put half octave smoothing on that, it would work out to about 0.3% or so...
Are you measuring at 1W or so? More importantly, will you be testing the new Pluvia Elevens at any point in the foreseeable future 😉 ?
Are you measuring at 1W or so? More importantly, will you be testing the new Pluvia Elevens at any point in the foreseeable future 😉 ?
Mic sensitivety was not calibrated (altough the mic response is calibrated!) Instead I measured the signal voltage across driver terminals which was set to be 2.82V RMS @ 1kHz with the driver as load (current source amplifier).
The measurements were done with 2.82V RMS@1kHz across the driver terminals with a current source amplifier.
I wont be getting any of the pluvia drivers, sorry.
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Can I call the spike as "paper sound" ? The reason why I choose A10.2 before was, I heard Fostex drivers at my friend's home and found its not my cup of tea. So, I bet on MA metal drivers. As I moved into a bigger appartment, I think about the A12p. But, this thread reminds me.
The A12P likes a large enclosure to really shine, and even then, I prefer the sonics of either of current A10s - have been living with a trio of the 10Ps in the front row of my 7.1 system for a while now.
Yes, the tonality of some Fostex drivers are not for everyone - I don't particularly care for the 166 or 206 - even the special edition versions, but the FF85 and 105WK on the other hand I could live with ,
Seems like my idea of upgrade A10.2 to A12p is wrong. What do you think about Pluvia 11? Or, which driver should I go for.
Pluvia 11 will not go as low, and althou the sonic signature is broadly similar, they are not as capable of reproducing the small details (ie do not have as high a DDR).
The A10.2 has some “hardness” up top that the A10.3 reduces and in the A10p is MIA. Neither has the potential to go as low as the A10.2 which until the A12pw was the MA LF champ.
Do note that EnABLing any of these jumps up their already good performance.
dave
The A10.2 has some “hardness” up top that the A10.3 reduces and in the A10p is MIA. Neither has the potential to go as low as the A10.2 which until the A12pw was the MA LF champ.
Do note that EnABLing any of these jumps up their already good performance.
dave
Not necessarily wrong, per se - one of Dave & my local buddies is a fan of the A12P - bigly so. But they do have some special considerations, and to be completely honest possess shortcomings that other drivers of Mark's not designed for that extra drop or two of sensitivity don't. .
let the flame war begin
let the flame war begin
A lot depends on your ears and your music. 2nd order distortion is going to add "sweetness" to the sound. Same sort of thing SE triodes do. Some like it, some don't. Same thing with the OB sound. Some like it, some don't.
The awful reality is to make a reasoned choice between the A10.3 and the A10P requires that you have both in front of you. Anecdotal evidence on a forum will not help.
Bob
The awful reality is to make a reasoned choice between the A10.3 and the A10P requires that you have both in front of you. Anecdotal evidence on a forum will not help.
Bob
The term "sweetness" does nothing to convey an attribute of sound (unless you have the mental affliction of synesthesia; attributing irrational sounds to taste etc) any more that "acidic" or "red" does and is purely a subjective term. Such terms reviewers use the time, and it just creates confusion.
SE class A, S.S. does exist.
Mosfet with resistor or CCS - the first produces more distortion ( 2nd H mostly)
Mosfet with resistor or CCS - the first produces more distortion ( 2nd H mostly)
If you guys would stop trolling and address the OP's problem....
If you have been around audio for more than 15 minutes, you know what "sweet", "harsh","warm" "analytical" etc sound like. These words are used because you can't post a sound on a computer (don't go there!). Now, would you like to describe in your own words the difference between an A10.3 and an A10P?
Bob
If you have been around audio for more than 15 minutes, you know what "sweet", "harsh","warm" "analytical" etc sound like. These words are used because you can't post a sound on a computer (don't go there!). Now, would you like to describe in your own words the difference between an A10.3 and an A10P?
Bob
+1
It is 6 of one half dozen of the other. They choose different but equal sets of compromises. Only you can choose which set best suits your needs/taste.
It is hard in the internet age when so many have to just buy on faith.
I have/have had many drivers that just get given away or are in the back of a drawer.
dave
I hadn't heard anything about this, but my desk is built around Frugel Horn Mk3/ A7.3 loaded. I have too much work in that thing to make any changes, so I ordered another pair of A7.3 as reserves.
Any other drivers fit in the FH Mk3 hole if originally built for the A7.3?
JR_W,
Other 4" MA drivers have smaller cutouts vs the Alp 7.3 - you can use supra-baffles maybe?
Dave has most of the driver drawings here:
http://www.frugal-phile.com/boxes-markaudio.html
Other 4" MA drivers have smaller cutouts vs the Alp 7.3 - you can use supra-baffles maybe?
Dave has most of the driver drawings here:
http://www.frugal-phile.com/boxes-markaudio.html
The Pluvia do not reach the same levels as the Alpairs. You can expect a new round of evolutionary improvement in the Alpairs.
dave
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