anatech said:I'm thinking something like "future darwin" or "darwin in progress". Exiting the gene pool in this way promises to be spectacular.
I like the phrase, "thinning the herd."
But seriously, Inhale...
You need to get a book that covers the very basics of electronics. Think 300-500 pages at least. Read all through it. Twice. Then (or before then) go read the high voltage safety thread here.
You need to get a book that covers the very basics of electronics. Think 300-500 pages at least. Read all through it. Twice. Then (or before then) go read the high voltage safety thread here.
Stocker said:Then (or before then) go read the high voltage safety thread here.
That is if you can find it. I looked and couldn't.
Bill Fitzpatrick said:
That is if you can find it. I looked and couldn't.
diytube page, 6th from the top
This just >has< to be a troll, right?
Just in case.....
You can't just plug different power supplies into each other and hope it will work. computer PSUs will give you 12v max. Microwave PSUs will give (as others have pointed out) ~1200v.
If you try to stack these, you would only get 24v more (hardly worth it), and you wouldn't get the power (current limited by the microwave PSU - Kirchoff's law). Worse than that, you would almost certainly exceed the computer PSUs insulation voltage - bangs, smoke, flames and corpses!!!
If you tried parallelling them, it would be like connecting a 1200v supply to a 12v battery - more bangs, smoke, flames and corpses!
If you don't know why I'm going on about voltages, when you are wanting watts, then you really do want to start learning basic electrics. What is Voltage, Current, Power etc? What do resistors do? and capacitors and inductors and transformers etc etc....
After that, then start on electronics - diodes, transistors, valves (tubes) etc. THEN you can start thinking about building stuff. Lots of people get injured or killed (and get their house burnt down) by playing around like this. Please don't be in such a rush to do stuff - even if you do want to impress your friends!
Sorry if I'm sounding patronising, but we don't want to read of your demise in the papers!
Just in case.....
You can't just plug different power supplies into each other and hope it will work. computer PSUs will give you 12v max. Microwave PSUs will give (as others have pointed out) ~1200v.
If you try to stack these, you would only get 24v more (hardly worth it), and you wouldn't get the power (current limited by the microwave PSU - Kirchoff's law). Worse than that, you would almost certainly exceed the computer PSUs insulation voltage - bangs, smoke, flames and corpses!!!

If you tried parallelling them, it would be like connecting a 1200v supply to a 12v battery - more bangs, smoke, flames and corpses!

If you don't know why I'm going on about voltages, when you are wanting watts, then you really do want to start learning basic electrics. What is Voltage, Current, Power etc? What do resistors do? and capacitors and inductors and transformers etc etc....
After that, then start on electronics - diodes, transistors, valves (tubes) etc. THEN you can start thinking about building stuff. Lots of people get injured or killed (and get their house burnt down) by playing around like this. Please don't be in such a rush to do stuff - even if you do want to impress your friends!
Sorry if I'm sounding patronising, but we don't want to read of your demise in the papers!

inhale said:okay i went around my neighborhood, and i found a microwave, and 2 computer power supplys, so i have
1 600w (?) transformer
1 125w power supply
1 250W powersupply
thats 975 Watts. im trying to build a 2400W tube, but im guessing 975 is enough for now. well i didnt know the power supply didnt have a tarnsformer, so i figure i could use it as-is, but is there any way i could connect the p4 connectors and the molex connectors on the power supplys w\ the transformer from the microwave and build a tube? Now i know what you're thinking... i could kill my self with a serious zap. but i will take the necessary precautions and buy some heavy duty electrical gloves and test it elsewhere =], w\ a 6plug circut breaker (or what ever you call those things ofcourse) so please help me out here, is it possible?
I KNOW this is the wrong thread for this, but if you would be so kind as to give this a think.
I am seeing much talk of high voltages, be they low current, from microwave trannies. This makes me think they may be used for an EL. Think it is worth a try?
I am seeing much talk of high voltages, be they low current, from microwave trannies. This makes me think they may be used for an EL. Think it is worth a try?
Hi there Giaime,
This will keep me up at night for sure! Thinning the herd - absolutely.
I hope it's a troll or someone, inhale , may get hurt badly. There are safety interlocks on a microwave for a reason. Any high voltage device is the same (RF transmitters).
There is no inexpensive way to build a tube amp unless someone gives it to you. High power = high voltage. Do not work on these until you are very skilled. Normally this means you are over the age of thirty and have been shocked before (and survived) so you realise the safety rules really do matter. I still work with my left hand in my pocket as I'm sure most of us do, second nature. Read and read more. Talk to a responsible old TV tech or someone like that (who worked on tube stuff under warranty, that will put some age on them).
-Chris
This will keep me up at night for sure! Thinning the herd - absolutely.
I hope it's a troll or someone, inhale , may get hurt badly. There are safety interlocks on a microwave for a reason. Any high voltage device is the same (RF transmitters).
There is no inexpensive way to build a tube amp unless someone gives it to you. High power = high voltage. Do not work on these until you are very skilled. Normally this means you are over the age of thirty and have been shocked before (and survived) so you realise the safety rules really do matter. I still work with my left hand in my pocket as I'm sure most of us do, second nature. Read and read more. Talk to a responsible old TV tech or someone like that (who worked on tube stuff under warranty, that will put some age on them).
-Chris
anatech said:Hi there Giaime,
This will keep me up at night for sure! Thinning the herd - absolutely.
While you're losing sleep over this, remember, the concept of thinning the herd is a positive thing.
you know, we havent heard back from inhale. maybe he has actually tried out his "theory" on how amps are built....
i am now subscribed to this thread and couldnt be happier about it.
should i sell him those 4 1.2kva xformers i have for sale? you could build a huge tube with the 4 of those!
i am now subscribed to this thread and couldnt be happier about it.
should i sell him those 4 1.2kva xformers i have for sale? you could build a huge tube with the 4 of those!
...why does the 'tubes' forum have to inherit this?
Since when do a bunch of old power supplies make a 'tube'...
Argh.
Since when do a bunch of old power supplies make a 'tube'...
Argh.
haha.
where else should it be? he doesnt know what a "fet" is, but he knows tubes. bam, tubes forum
where else should it be? he doesnt know what a "fet" is, but he knows tubes. bam, tubes forum

Hi Jason,
Try and get him to mention Electrostat's (home made of course). Then you can have it moved to the speaker forum.
-Chris
Try and get him to mention Electrostat's (home made of course). Then you can have it moved to the speaker forum.
-Chris
Bill Fitzpatrick said:I think it should be moved to Texas.
Just so long as it's not next door to me, as I don't want MY house burning down!

OK,
On my clock its 24 hours since inhale posted last. Does anyone know where to send the flowers?
Honestly, This may have been one of the best satire tube threads ever, Truely a "you know your a redneck when " Comic event
😀
On my clock its 24 hours since inhale posted last. Does anyone know where to send the flowers?
Honestly, This may have been one of the best satire tube threads ever, Truely a "you know your a redneck when " Comic event
😀
Well, if inhale was working alone, no one knows yet except us.
Okay, I'm a redneck too then. The thread was fun but most of us held back just in case ...
-Chris
Okay, I'm a redneck too then. The thread was fun but most of us held back just in case ...
-Chris
inhale said:...could dumpster dive and sell on ebay and turn rich and never look back at diyaudio.com with their lies and lies about you and your fanatics.![]()
and he dared say dumpster dive, what about vintage ebay items
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