Dave,
Sorry if this is OT, but what are the recommended enclosures for CHP-70? I can think of FH MK3 and Pensil for CHP-70. Blue Planet Acoustics has the CHP-70 on sale and have the opportunity to sweep some up. But would not want to get stuck with a driver that has limited cabinet options. Read that the current CHP-70 is also gem of a driver and very smooth (mainly from folks who have done the FH MK3), and is probably more finessed than the CHR-70 in mid and high frequencies. So would love to give it a try in a good design ala CHR-Ken or Twin CHR-Ken type of enclosures.
-Zia
Sorry if this is OT, but what are the recommended enclosures for CHP-70? I can think of FH MK3 and Pensil for CHP-70. Blue Planet Acoustics has the CHP-70 on sale and have the opportunity to sweep some up. But would not want to get stuck with a driver that has limited cabinet options. Read that the current CHP-70 is also gem of a driver and very smooth (mainly from folks who have done the FH MK3), and is probably more finessed than the CHR-70 in mid and high frequencies. So would love to give it a try in a good design ala CHR-Ken or Twin CHR-Ken type of enclosures.
-Zia
If there is sufficient demand (ie 1 person buys plan-set for EL70) for CHP-70 i will adapt Mar-Kel(s) for it. It is in the boilerplate.
dave
dave
Dave,
On Twin CHR-Ken I am fighting a losing battle; peeps who want the speakers seem to value grunt over finesse and Micro Towers being favored more.
Again OT (sorry), will CHP-70s work in MT with EL-70 port tuning?
-Zia
On Twin CHR-Ken I am fighting a losing battle; peeps who want the speakers seem to value grunt over finesse and Micro Towers being favored more.
For serious grunt, perhaps time to introduce them to the big twin driver CHR MTMs (there is an upcoming EL70 variation and all will be adjusted for CHP as time goes on). If my experiement with EL166/#6 woofer is any indication, converting to a high aspect ratio slot port can gain you some finesse.
No. I have already looked at the mMar-Kel70 and tuning is quite different. Existing CHP looks like it may also take advantage of a larger box so for instance a true floorstander Twin might be possible (ie no high heels needed)
dave
I should have said Twin, no need for a tweeter.
Mercia, or Wessex. p10 hifi | Box Library / Mark Audio
dave
I nearly built the Mercia, but that idea did not pass WAF standards - had to settle for the thinner profile of the Lotus for my next project. The other gentlemen in question also like smaller floor standers 😡.
small was one of the motivations for the microTower. I spurred Chris to suggest "cloning" the original microTowers after i had the idea of doing a miniTower tribute (still have drivers for that althou i haven't settled on the driver for the built in subwoofer -- if an on-going experiment turns out, maybe 4 12s in a pushpull-pushpush isobarik arrangement.
dave
Mid-Tweeter-Mid or d'Appollito after the man that popularized it (certainly didn't invent it)
Or in the case of a FAST WFW
dave
Or in the case of a FAST WFW
dave
Dave,
You are playing with the TLAs today - WFW - Woofer Full-range Woofer - at least I managed to decode that 🙂.
The WFW EL66 MLTL - is 14' x 12' too small for such a system? I have tried to provide a diagram - speakers kept roughly 10-11 feet apart, toed in approx 45 degrees, listening distance comes to roughly 9.5' for position 2, approx 6.5' for position 1.
-Zia
You are playing with the TLAs today - WFW - Woofer Full-range Woofer - at least I managed to decode that 🙂.
The WFW EL66 MLTL - is 14' x 12' too small for such a system? I have tried to provide a diagram - speakers kept roughly 10-11 feet apart, toed in approx 45 degrees, listening distance comes to roughly 9.5' for position 2, approx 6.5' for position 1.
-Zia
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Dave, was studying the EL66 ML-TL plans - single woofer MLTL design also looks good - dimensions are very room friendly.
With HF+Mid Range duties passed on to a 4 inch FR, there still should be enough bass impact to beat an EL70 Micro Tower? Or am I expecting too much from 6.5" woofer with 5.5 mm xmax?
-Zia
With HF+Mid Range duties passed on to a 4 inch FR, there still should be enough bass impact to beat an EL70 Micro Tower? Or am I expecting too much from 6.5" woofer with 5.5 mm xmax?
-Zia
EL166 has ~3.25 times the Sd as EL70. Take ~ 4 EL70 to move the same air. Plus the lower Fs means capability for more extension at the low end.
dave
dave
Dave,
I will kick off the EL166/Woofer #6 MLTL project with 1 x woofer and 1 x FR unit per cabinet then.
If I feel need for more impact, then will move on to the bigger cabinet with 2 x EL166/side.
BTW, I have seen pics of your prototype with 2 x EL166 white cone/side with Fostex mid-tweet. Did you find the time to do the smaller cab with 1 EL166/side?
-Zia
I'd really like to see the results!
For the moment i am planning on using some more expensive woofers. Like Peerless HDS EXCL 830884 or something similar. Although the 2x EL166 would probably have more impact but i guess the 830884 sounds a little better.
Well, I have twin EL70 cabinets partially assembled, I expect that it should provide enough kick once its all together.
Rullknufs, will you at least be getting nice plywood for your next build?
Rullknufs, will you at least be getting nice plywood for your next build?
Yes!
My particleboard Mar-Kel70 looks like sh*t. In birchply they would look nice though. And i'll make sure to cut the pieces better to avoid having to sand them down to proper size for hours!
Lerg,
Twin EL70 - you mean a Twin Mar-Kel70? Should be good! Or is it one of those larger MLTL like Wessex or Mercia?
-Zia