One of the HK898's is dead silent turning on and the other has a bump when it turns on. DC offset is 13mv and 9mv on the amp with the bump. The other amp has 60mv dc offset 😱 but its dead quiet 🙄 Still T/S that problem. Both trans data sheets look close and I can get the FJN3302R and FJN4302R from mouser for next to nothing.
I'll draw a small schemi for that portion of the circuit to make sure.
I'll draw a small schemi for that portion of the circuit to make sure.
Did you confirm that the drive voltage for the muting transistors was transitioning as it should?
You can simulate a mute condition by shorting the collector and emitter of the muting transistor.
You can simulate a mute condition by shorting the collector and emitter of the muting transistor.
Did you confirm that the drive voltage for the muting transistors was transitioning as it should?
You can simulate a mute condition by shorting the collector and emitter of the muting transistor.
I have not confirmed the drive voltage but will check it. That is cool info about simulating a mute condition. Awesome knowledge, thanks Perry..

Some pics of the boards. 😎
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I replaced the diff input pairs and got the amp down to 3mv (Lt) and 10mv (Rt)... Dumb luck without matching them first 🙂. Now amp has turn-on/off bump noise. Still T/S. 😎
Did you confirm that the drive voltage for the muting transistors was transitioning as it should?
You can simulate a mute condition by shorting the collector and emitter of the muting transistor.
These semi's checked good, thanks Perry.
I found on both of these amps that the op-amps circled in red were causing the turn on noise. Now they are very quiet an DC Off-set on both amps is lower than 13mv. FINALLY!!!

These make very good sub amps, there cheep and can take a beating.
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Are those before or after the muting transistors? If before, the muting transistors should have prevented any turn on/off noise if the mute driver circuit was functioning properly.
Are those before or after the muting transistors? If before, the muting transistors should have prevented any turn on/off noise if the mute driver circuit was functioning properly.
As far as I could tell, they are after...
I haven't had time to draw a schematic....not fun.
OK one amp still has a turn on bump if I turn it off and then quickly (within a few seconds) turn it back on. If I leave it off for 30 seconds or more, it turns on fairly quiet.
I know it has some bad op-amps because I swapped them around and it turned on fairly quiet.
I've got to order some new ones and I'll get new muting transistors and replace them.
I replaced the 5 op-amps and the 2 muting semis with FJN3302R and FJN4302R.
Results.....
No turn on/off noise at all.
Dc offset; 8mv and 3mv, Lt & Rt.
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Results.....
No turn on/off noise at all.
Dc offset; 8mv and 3mv, Lt & Rt.
😎
In the future, you may want to replace one component at a time and re-check the operation of the amp. This can help you learn more about which one actually solved the problem.
Thanks Perry, your correct. The only reason I change all components was they were inexpensive, I now they are all new and I'm going to keep them for sub amps. Plus the honey do list limits my time 😀 ...
Thanks Perry, your correct. The only reason I change all components was they were inexpensive, I know they are all new and I'm going to keep them for sub amps. Plus the honey do list limits my time 😀 ...
now!!! Duh!!! know!
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