I have a T1 connection on a server that I own, which is largely empty and idle.
I have my own 'space' on that server.
I have the RCA tube book, RC-30,and the black Sylvania tube reference book, with additions. I think it was one of the last books made by sylvania,an it is highly sought after.
And a few other cross-reference books, that I can use to find crosses that most guys have never even heard of. (I think a total of 3-4 cross reference books) Older books only, stuff well past any current publication rights control or legal use.
I'd like to publish them in some format, as a public service for all the tube fanatics. I think the publishing rights on both these books are in real terms or realistic terms (for anyone attempting to make cash off of them), non existent.
I think that publishing either on the internet, is not likely to get me into any sort of legal trouble. Advice please! What kind of advice?
1: will I get into any kind of trouble?
2: what is the best, most compact method of transferring to digital files?
3: what is the format that will be of the most use?
I can publish the entire books, but I would like to start with only the relevant audio stuff. Meaning the entire RCA and large parts of the sylvania book.
Most of my desire for help at this point, is figuring out the best method of creating the files, ie scanning, and the size of them. Detail is important, for you to print off what you need, and have the text be good enough for future use. This creates LARGE files. The question is, how big?
We are talking about, oh...2000 pages, or so, all told. Imagine the size of the files. Huge. I'll have to act innocent when the bill for bandwidth use comes in.......
I have my own 'space' on that server.
I have the RCA tube book, RC-30,and the black Sylvania tube reference book, with additions. I think it was one of the last books made by sylvania,an it is highly sought after.
And a few other cross-reference books, that I can use to find crosses that most guys have never even heard of. (I think a total of 3-4 cross reference books) Older books only, stuff well past any current publication rights control or legal use.
I'd like to publish them in some format, as a public service for all the tube fanatics. I think the publishing rights on both these books are in real terms or realistic terms (for anyone attempting to make cash off of them), non existent.
I think that publishing either on the internet, is not likely to get me into any sort of legal trouble. Advice please! What kind of advice?
1: will I get into any kind of trouble?
2: what is the best, most compact method of transferring to digital files?
3: what is the format that will be of the most use?
I can publish the entire books, but I would like to start with only the relevant audio stuff. Meaning the entire RCA and large parts of the sylvania book.
Most of my desire for help at this point, is figuring out the best method of creating the files, ie scanning, and the size of them. Detail is important, for you to print off what you need, and have the text be good enough for future use. This creates LARGE files. The question is, how big?
We are talking about, oh...2000 pages, or so, all told. Imagine the size of the files. Huge. I'll have to act innocent when the bill for bandwidth use comes in.......
Great idea. I've seen other similar books on the Net and it is possibly not a problem to host it. In addition the information is not being put up for profit.
Haven't you seen the entire Radiotron and many other tube texts on the Net ?
Almost all the books are in PDF format. However this also has a gradation for compression.
A PDF expert will have to comment on that. Scanning can take a long time. You might need help. Any forum members close to you ?
Look forward to seeing the texts.
Thanks,
Ashok.
Haven't you seen the entire Radiotron and many other tube texts on the Net ?
Almost all the books are in PDF format. However this also has a gradation for compression.
A PDF expert will have to comment on that. Scanning can take a long time. You might need help. Any forum members close to you ?
Look forward to seeing the texts.
Thanks,
Ashok.
Hi Ken,
That's a huge undertaking!
You could simply require a password for access and stick it in a post in the tubes section. Letting it sit there open in the wild may not be in your best interest. A PDF per chapter may work for downloading.
Some of your own audio work should be included. Thoughts and musings. 😉
-Chris
That's a huge undertaking!
You could simply require a password for access and stick it in a post in the tubes section. Letting it sit there open in the wild may not be in your best interest. A PDF per chapter may work for downloading.
Some of your own audio work should be included. Thoughts and musings. 😉
-Chris
if you are going to scan it you might want to check with a University Library to see if they have a book scanner -- these correct the image for the curvature of the scanned materials, have very high memory capacity and will render the material as best for Acrobat.
it would be more interesting to capture the images and OCR them -- this would yield faster searches --
it would be more interesting to capture the images and OCR them -- this would yield faster searches --
I have the wherewithall to buy a cheap scanner, which will live it's short 90 day warranty life in the service of tubedom. maybe a hunner bux, max. Then instead of picking my nose cruising the forum, I can scan pages instead -and post them to the server.
We can password it via link to the forum here, but that won't last long. Thankfully, almost anyone on the planet who would download the files, would originate form this place.
The one issue though, is that many people are pack rats, and would download the files for no reason. Then they can also end up on ebay for $6.99 a disk 🙄
So yeah, passwords make sense. Except my innocence trick looses it's ability to hold water. I'd have to engage the services of our programmer/admin to get that done.
I'll go search for a cheap high quality scanner today. I picked two of the requisite three. I didn't ask for it to last long.
We can password it via link to the forum here, but that won't last long. Thankfully, almost anyone on the planet who would download the files, would originate form this place.
The one issue though, is that many people are pack rats, and would download the files for no reason. Then they can also end up on ebay for $6.99 a disk 🙄
So yeah, passwords make sense. Except my innocence trick looses it's ability to hold water. I'd have to engage the services of our programmer/admin to get that done.
I'll go search for a cheap high quality scanner today. I picked two of the requisite three. I didn't ask for it to last long.
I don't know whether General Electric is gonna come after you -- some of the parts of RCA were scattered, the broadcasting portion went to GE, the music division went to Bertelsman circa 1986. I don't know what entity is the successor to the electronics business. Sylvania is now buried deep within the bowels of Siemens.
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Maybe you could ask Pete Millet. How he has done it...He has many tube books online already
http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm
Pete's main site.
http://www.pmillett.com/index.html
He also has a link to a page that can tell you the copyright status
http://www.scils.rutgers.edu/~lesk/copyrenew.html
http://www.pmillett.com/technical_books_online.htm
Pete's main site.
http://www.pmillett.com/index.html
He also has a link to a page that can tell you the copyright status
http://www.scils.rutgers.edu/~lesk/copyrenew.html
Well..I'll commit to the first step. Gathering the files. Then we'll take it from there. See what's what. Reasess at that point.
Yes, I need more wimdmills to tilt at. This be one of them.
If any of you remember the film about Howard Huges with Leo in it, I need that situation, or at least desire it. An engineering team appraoches him with a problem they encounter. He quickly (a few seconds) runs it through his mind like a buzzsaw, give them a solution and avenues of alternate endeavor, and then goes back to his other current engineering issue. My kinda life. I can do it, I just need to get to the point where the money is there to do such a thing. I have never met an engineering problem or component of mystery in raw physics I have not managed to solve. It always leaves me flabbergasted and stymied by the stagnancy I see in others, in the face of the potential positive change in life, The universe, etc. My self created methods and ways might seem strange, but they work for me. And the old shall be created anew.
Chris: Take a look at the book, "The Secret Life of Plants". It will give you some very interesting avenues and insights.
Yes, I need more wimdmills to tilt at. This be one of them.
If any of you remember the film about Howard Huges with Leo in it, I need that situation, or at least desire it. An engineering team appraoches him with a problem they encounter. He quickly (a few seconds) runs it through his mind like a buzzsaw, give them a solution and avenues of alternate endeavor, and then goes back to his other current engineering issue. My kinda life. I can do it, I just need to get to the point where the money is there to do such a thing. I have never met an engineering problem or component of mystery in raw physics I have not managed to solve. It always leaves me flabbergasted and stymied by the stagnancy I see in others, in the face of the potential positive change in life, The universe, etc. My self created methods and ways might seem strange, but they work for me. And the old shall be created anew.
Chris: Take a look at the book, "The Secret Life of Plants". It will give you some very interesting avenues and insights.
Pete has an amazing site.
He cuts the pages out and uses an automatic document feeder, so scanning is mucher faster and easier. It's pretty hard on the book though. If you have a book in rough shape (no covers or falling apart), this may be a step in the direction of having it rebound.
-Chris
He cuts the pages out and uses an automatic document feeder, so scanning is mucher faster and easier. It's pretty hard on the book though. If you have a book in rough shape (no covers or falling apart), this may be a step in the direction of having it rebound.
-Chris
I hate to rain on your parade, but there really isn't much point to duplicating the contents of this site: http://www.tubedata.org/ and its many mirrors. Types listed often have several or more different vendor data sheets of varying vintage. A very few types are not listed..
Perhaps you have some publications that are not common or could scan parts of these books and tube data sheets that are not commonly available on the net..
It seems like a huge amount of effort to duplicate a lot of what others have done already.
Another thought - why not mirror this site and/or add some additional content?
Perhaps you have some publications that are not common or could scan parts of these books and tube data sheets that are not commonly available on the net..
It seems like a huge amount of effort to duplicate a lot of what others have done already.
Another thought - why not mirror this site and/or add some additional content?
There are some tube types I can't find on any site. 6HJ5, 6HD5, 6HW8, 7763 for example (the available RCA data sheets on the 6HJ5 don't have any curves) Maybe the Sylvania book has something? Doesn't seem to be any Raytheon tube data around either except some odd industrial types.
Don
Don
Fair Use
Regarding copyrights, in the US there is the Fair Use provision. I came across this Fair Use notice on a web site recently. I can't assure you that it is legally appropriate or correct. I'm not a lawyer, so please don't consider this as legal advice from me.
"Fair Use Notice: The material on this site is provided for educational and informational purposes. It may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. It is being made available in an effort to advance the understanding of scientific, environmental, economic, social justice and human rights issues etc. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have an interest in using the included information for research and educational purposes. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. The information on this site does not constitute legal or technical advice."
Regarding copyrights, in the US there is the Fair Use provision. I came across this Fair Use notice on a web site recently. I can't assure you that it is legally appropriate or correct. I'm not a lawyer, so please don't consider this as legal advice from me.
"Fair Use Notice: The material on this site is provided for educational and informational purposes. It may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. It is being made available in an effort to advance the understanding of scientific, environmental, economic, social justice and human rights issues etc. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have an interest in using the included information for research and educational purposes. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. The information on this site does not constitute legal or technical advice."
Hi Smoking-Amp there is quite a lot of Raytheon stuff on the site I previously mentioned. http://www.tubedata.org/
Just search on CK (The Raytheon prefix) and you will get almost 100 Raytheon types listed.
Examples: CK5687, CK5744, CK5842, CK6021 - all quite useful audio tubes.
Just search on CK (The Raytheon prefix) and you will get almost 100 Raytheon types listed.
Examples: CK5687, CK5744, CK5842, CK6021 - all quite useful audio tubes.
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