I have been looking for some time now and have not been able to find a way to play WAV files from a USB flash drive player using AES/EBU to my Behringer DCX2496 digital input.
Any ideas? Will I have to make a player?
Thanks Andy
Any ideas? Will I have to make a player?
Thanks Andy
Any player with electrical SPDIF out should do the trick. Of course not Toslink/optical.
But any unbalanced SPDIF or balanced AES signal I've thrown at the DCX works.
What troubles are you finding?
But any unbalanced SPDIF or balanced AES signal I've thrown at the DCX works.
What troubles are you finding?
I have been looking for some time now and have not been able to find a way to play WAV files from a USB flash drive player using AES/EBU to my Behringer DCX2496 digital input.
Any ideas? Will I have to make a player?
Thanks Andy
Andy,
Not sure I understand what you need - a USB to AES/EBU converter?
jan didden
I want to put WAV files on a USB flash drive and then play them thru the DCX2496 without doing all the D/A and A/D convershoins.
As far as I can tell I can not put S/PDIF signals into the DCX2496 AES/EBU input without some kind of adapter. So I would like a player for the USB flash drive with AES/EBU XLR output.
Andy
As far as I can tell I can not put S/PDIF signals into the DCX2496 AES/EBU input without some kind of adapter. So I would like a player for the USB flash drive with AES/EBU XLR output.
Andy
But any unbalanced SPDIF or balanced AES signal I've thrown at the DCX works.
Sorry I am new to all the digital stuff. How do you get it to work?
Andy
Does it have to be USB? If not, have a look at the QLS QA550, which plays WAV files from SD cards.
--Buckapound
--Buckapound
I didnt think the QA550 had digital output. The QA350 is like the closest that I have come to meeting my needs but it has coaxl output (S/PDIF) not the XLR (AES/EBU) that I need. It dose not need to be portable in fact rack mount is preferred to go along with my Ultradrive. AndyDoes it have to be USB? If not, have a look at the QLS QA550, which plays WAV files from SD cards.
You don't need no stinkin' XLR out.
Just make an RCA to XLR (Male) cable. Connect RCA ground to XLR pin 3, RCA center to XLR pin 2. This should work fine. "If" there are any ground problems, just put a little jumper between pins 1&3 on the XLR.
The Qa-550 has coax out, too - so you can use that if you like.
Just make an RCA to XLR (Male) cable. Connect RCA ground to XLR pin 3, RCA center to XLR pin 2. This should work fine. "If" there are any ground problems, just put a little jumper between pins 1&3 on the XLR.
The Qa-550 has coax out, too - so you can use that if you like.
The QA 550 ONLY has digital outputs. The QA 350 has digital and analog outputs--confusing numbering, I know.
--Buckapound
--Buckapound
Good point! The 350 would be easier to monitor (solo) because of its headphone jack.
Speaking of which... Why would you want to go directly from the player to the DCX? Wouldn't you go thru a mixer first? How would you control volume if directly connected? How would you mix in a VOG mic?
Speaking of which... Why would you want to go directly from the player to the DCX? Wouldn't you go thru a mixer first? How would you control volume if directly connected? How would you mix in a VOG mic?
This is a system for pyromusicals. All it well ever do is play a wave file for 15 mins. I will set the levels on the DCX before the show and will not change during the show, so I think I can do this without a mixer. If a mic is used I would change the setting on the DCX. I would never run anything else with the music. AndySpeaking of which... Why would you want to go directly from the player to the DCX? Wouldn't you go thru a mixer first? How would you control volume if directly connected? How would you mix in a VOG mic?
I understand, but don't think it is a practical system. You had better be pretty damn good at gain structure if you want to run full blast digital into the DCX then out to the amps.
The perceived advantages of running digital in (for a show like this) are far outweighed by the practical "make it work" considerations. I run my DCX at home with digital input - the volume is controlled in my player software. Can't think I'd ever do that for a show, especially without volume control.
I've been working in pro sound since 1975, so I may just be stuck in my ways. 😉
The perceived advantages of running digital in (for a show like this) are far outweighed by the practical "make it work" considerations. I run my DCX at home with digital input - the volume is controlled in my player software. Can't think I'd ever do that for a show, especially without volume control.
I've been working in pro sound since 1975, so I may just be stuck in my ways. 😉
In agree with Pano. you can buy a cheap Behringer 4 channel mixer for $50us and this gives you volume controls, tone controls etc. plus for the quick oh dang moments, you have QUICK access to the master fader!
I understand what you want to do. but honestly there are more reasons NOT to do it than there are reasons to do it....
I understand what you want to do. but honestly there are more reasons NOT to do it than there are reasons to do it....
Thanks for your input guys. Most of the volume controls I have seen for the DCX2496 are DIY ganged systems on the outputs. Something about loosing bits on the digital input and humming. At this point I have given up on using a USB flash drive reader with using digital outputs and am going to use one of the digital USB CD players with analog output. Like the American Audio Media Operator SD and USB Media Player or the Gemini CDMP-1400 Professional 1U Single Player.
Thay both have volume controls would it be OK to use that as the master volume control? or can I use the input level control on the behringer DCX?
Thanks for all your help Andy
Thay both have volume controls would it be OK to use that as the master volume control? or can I use the input level control on the behringer DCX?
Thanks for all your help Andy
You're welcome!
In a case like this there is no reason NOT to use a small mixer and many more reasons TO use one. Just as Z.C. says. Being able to reach over and grab that master fader can be a life saver.
The playback device is not a big deal. But I suggest having a back up. Players can get very squirrelly under stress. 😉 Don't know why, but they do. Just an iPod or something like that plugged into another channel, ready to go with the same track cued up.
Don't you need to take time code or something off one track for the firing cues?
In a case like this there is no reason NOT to use a small mixer and many more reasons TO use one. Just as Z.C. says. Being able to reach over and grab that master fader can be a life saver.
The playback device is not a big deal. But I suggest having a back up. Players can get very squirrelly under stress. 😉 Don't know why, but they do. Just an iPod or something like that plugged into another channel, ready to go with the same track cued up.
Don't you need to take time code or something off one track for the firing cues?
You may be right but at this point I see no reason for a mixer and thare for can not justify it to the owner of the company. Here again that is asuming I can adjust the volume at the input to the DCX.In a case like this there is no reason NOT to use a small mixer and many more reasons TO use one. Just as Z.C. says. Being able to reach over and grab that master fader can be a life saver.
Thougt of getting two players, but may use the output of a laptop for backup when needed. But yes I need a backup plan.The playback device is not a big deal. But I suggest having a back up. Players can get very squirrelly under stress. 😉 Don't know why, but they do. Just an iPod or something like that plugged into another channel, ready to go with the same track cued up.
Yes the time code will come off one channel of the player (RCA) to a transmiter. The other channel will go to the DCX with a XLR cable and crossed for tri amps.Don't you need to take time code or something off one track for the firing cues?
Andy
You don't do any mic announcements? No Voice of God?
Getting the volume right with only the DCX is going to take some work. You can do it, but it's not going to be real easy.
Once you get the gains of the individual amps tweaked, you can bring the gian down on the DCX input. But only down - go up and you will clip. You have about 15dB of range on the input volume. Even something as simple as the old Shure mixer would make life easier.
The laptop backup is fine.
Getting the volume right with only the DCX is going to take some work. You can do it, but it's not going to be real easy.
Once you get the gains of the individual amps tweaked, you can bring the gian down on the DCX input. But only down - go up and you will clip. You have about 15dB of range on the input volume. Even something as simple as the old Shure mixer would make life easier.
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The laptop backup is fine.
Pano; Voice overers are done on the sound track. Never ever would we use a mic during the show. We may some times do mic announcements witch I would do a separate setup preset on the DCX and then switch presets before the show. Would using the volume control on the analog source mess up my gain structure? Andy
Not sure what you mean by that. What analog source?
Like the American Audio Media Operator SD and USB Media Player or the Gemini CDMP-1400 Professional 1U Single Player.
Thay both have analog outputs and volume controls.
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