Nothing to say sorry about, I appreciate your help!
@hugo stiglitz : I have seen this site before but here in Germany there is no listening room them, right? I always found the ATC models to lack a little bit in bass response. May be adding a sub or dual sub can fix this?
If you really think ATC SCM100 lack in bass you should invest in some ear-training
I should have written lack of subbass, if you want to mix a song for a club on an ATC 100, I think you would over do the Bass Response. It is not only me that thinks so, I spoke to a lot of well repsected mixing engineers and most of them said the same.
why lower than 30HZ??? from 30 up to 50 or 60HZ I can not do a translating mix on the ATCs. May be some can but for me it is the wrong speaker for that club sound mixes.
Why 30Hz?
That's the lowest SCM100 are more or less capable to reproduce.
I guess it's not the speakers but the room that causes the translation issues.
That's the lowest SCM100 are more or less capable to reproduce.
I guess it's not the speakers but the room that causes the translation issues.
that could be because the room is the most important part of all, but like I said it is not only my opinion. for example a 808 Bassdrum on the ATCs is problem for me.
Baffle edge diffraction generates distortion. Truncated pyramid cabinets similar to Avalon speakers can significantly reduce this edge distortion. attached examples
A 12" woofer like the SB34NRX75-6 designed for excellent transient response in a -F3=36Hz sealed 3.5-4cuft box volume can produce better sound quality than a ported alignment, but requires a larger box volume for the same -F3. DSP equalization is easier with a sealed woofer. A LinkwitzTransform filter can produce -F3=20Hz.
A 9" woofer like the Satori WO24P-8 can produce -F3=25Hz in a 3cuft ported box volume.
A 12" woofer like the SB34NRX75-6 designed for excellent transient response in a -F3=36Hz sealed 3.5-4cuft box volume can produce better sound quality than a ported alignment, but requires a larger box volume for the same -F3. DSP equalization is easier with a sealed woofer. A LinkwitzTransform filter can produce -F3=20Hz.
A 9" woofer like the Satori WO24P-8 can produce -F3=25Hz in a 3cuft ported box volume.
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Well reviewed horn tweeter + 8" mid + 12" ported woofer
Maximus-12 Very powerful 12" woofer for deep bass response down into the low 30hz range High end B&C woofer for great midrange response. Class leading DNA-450 compression driver extends response up to 20khz Easy to power 8 ohm speaker with 93db 2.83v/meter sensitivity. Quality name brand components. SEOS-10 waveguide gives you a larger 'sweet spot'. Will handle 700 watts and play over 120db. Designed to work best for 2 channel use and does not need a subwoofer.
Denovo Audio Maximus-12 Speaker Kit
Maximus-12 Very powerful 12" woofer for deep bass response down into the low 30hz range High end B&C woofer for great midrange response. Class leading DNA-450 compression driver extends response up to 20khz Easy to power 8 ohm speaker with 93db 2.83v/meter sensitivity. Quality name brand components. SEOS-10 waveguide gives you a larger 'sweet spot'. Will handle 700 watts and play over 120db. Designed to work best for 2 channel use and does not need a subwoofer.
Denovo Audio Maximus-12 Speaker Kit
Thank you very much, that sounds like an interesting speaker. I would have to build the cabinet myself without the front panel right? The price is for one speaker, right?
Don't think they have a flat pack for the Maximus but you could email them to be sure, they are very accomodating there. And yes, price is for one speaker.
diysoundgroup has many positive reviews for service. You will want to eMail them to discuss purchase options and get the price + Germany_shipping.
1) diysoundgroup sells CNC cut front baffles for the TM and the W, and a complete flat pack for the woofer cabinet.
--shipping cost to Germany will influence your decision
2) Discuss benefits of a 2*0.75" double-thick baffle with 1" quarter-round on the front baffle edges to reduce diffraction.
3) Discuss bi-amping using a plate amp with LR2 or LR4 crossover slopes. Will these fixed crossover slopes hurt the sound quality.
4) Discuss bi-amping with a MiniDSP type unit with flexible crossover slope and flexible room equalization.
* Is there a flat pack for this speaker? Answer: The flat pack used in the MBM-12 is what was used to design this speaker and works well. There is not a flat pack for the upper section, but it's small and easy to build. *
1) diysoundgroup sells CNC cut front baffles for the TM and the W, and a complete flat pack for the woofer cabinet.
--shipping cost to Germany will influence your decision
2) Discuss benefits of a 2*0.75" double-thick baffle with 1" quarter-round on the front baffle edges to reduce diffraction.
3) Discuss bi-amping using a plate amp with LR2 or LR4 crossover slopes. Will these fixed crossover slopes hurt the sound quality.
4) Discuss bi-amping with a MiniDSP type unit with flexible crossover slope and flexible room equalization.
* Is there a flat pack for this speaker? Answer: The flat pack used in the MBM-12 is what was used to design this speaker and works well. There is not a flat pack for the upper section, but it's small and easy to build. *
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