the teac vrds 25x in standard trim sounds baaaad.....! but if you modify it the way you mentioned, it is a different animal.
it will sound even better if you get some schottkys in the powersupply too, and the regulators really sucks +++etc.
it will sound even better if you get some schottkys in the powersupply too, and the regulators really sucks +++etc.

Hi Massimo,
With 😉 😉 😉 😉 I mean, If WADIA can,..... So can We!
I had 4 players with a defect laserunit (the owner told me after he/she took the player frome the repair shop)Afterward, I'v noticed that the flexible (Brown/orange, colour) pcb was broken!
So, IMHO I'ts not always the transport laser but the flex pcb. Tihs is what I'v had a few times.
What do you mean with KSSxx ? Is that a laser unit?
Thanks!
AF.
P.S. I'v learned a lot by trying to do the impossibel. And by listening to other guys like you! Thanks in advance!!
With 😉 😉 😉 😉 I mean, If WADIA can,..... So can We!
I had 4 players with a defect laserunit (the owner told me after he/she took the player frome the repair shop)Afterward, I'v noticed that the flexible (Brown/orange, colour) pcb was broken!
So, IMHO I'ts not always the transport laser but the flex pcb. Tihs is what I'v had a few times.
What do you mean with KSSxx ? Is that a laser unit?
Thanks!
AF.
P.S. I'v learned a lot by trying to do the impossibel. And by listening to other guys like you! Thanks in advance!!
tbla said:the teac vrds 25x in standard trim sounds baaaad.....! but if you modify it the way you mentioned, it is a different animal.
it will sound even better if you get some schottkys in the powersupply too, and the regulators really sucks +++etc.![]()
tbla,
I'll seccond that!!!





AF.
Audiofanatic said:
What do you mean with KSSxx ? Is that a laser unit?
Yes, it's the laser head. Made by Sony.
I wrote KSSxxx 'cause I don't remember exactly the number. It may be 240, but, again, I'm not sure.
OK. Massimo,
I'll order a new KSSxx for my new Wadia 20 clone!
Many thanks!
AF.
P.S. The Transport I'm talking about is the Wadia 20 not the 270! 🙁
I'll order a new KSSxx for my new Wadia 20 clone!
Many thanks!
AF.
P.S. The Transport I'm talking about is the Wadia 20 not the 270! 🙁
and what about the CD63 and CD67?
I can find them for 100$ (CD72 is 200$)
I've read that the cd67 uses the CDM12 transport, how it is compared to the older ones?
I don't know woch one uses the CD63
I can find them for 100$ (CD72 is 200$)
I've read that the cd67 uses the CDM12 transport, how it is compared to the older ones?
I don't know woch one uses the CD63
tbla said:the teac vrds 25x in standard trim sounds baaaad.....! but if you modify it the way you mentioned, it is a different animal.
it will sound even better if you get some schottkys in the powersupply too, and the regulators really sucks +++etc.![]()
I wouldn't agree with you.When I bought it it was very decent sounding for it's price range.In fact it was very close to some players at twice the price.Of course as a transport it excelled even in standard form sounding not much different than hi-end transports at three times thr price.With the tweaks it can sound even better . Main problem is the DAC. However if you have balanced pre the bal out sounds significantly better.
CDP choice
Hi,
Look for a Philips based player with SAA7210 or SAA7310 as Digital Signal Processor!
Hi,
Look for a Philips based player with SAA7210 or SAA7310 as Digital Signal Processor!

so what isn't good as a transport ? 😉Audiofanatic said:Hi,
The CD-80 use a CDM-1 the best on IMHO.
The CD-60 use a CDM-4 the seccond best.
THe CD-72 use a CDM-4 MKII also 2nd best.
The CD-4000 use a CDM-12.x ?????? also OK!
The TEAC VRDS-7 Use the same transport as the VRDS T1 transport.
All together tremendus players, I had them all.
I now use (after selling my Wadia 8 transport) The TEAC VRDS 25X which I'll modify within a few weeks with the new KWAK Clock-7 and the IV output like the PASS D1 post DAC Amp! The VRDS 25X use the same transport as the Wadia top player 270.
Gr.
AF.😉
Re: CDP choice
wich models use this?
Elso Kwak said:Hi,
Look for a Philips based player with SAA7210 or SAA7310 as Digital Signal Processor!![]()
wich models use this?
I get 1$ for each post, so I'm waiting for the 300th 😉 (imagine this thread has the same success that the aleph-x's 😀)
No, I'm looking for a Marantz CD67 or CD63 on ebay.fr, do you agree with my choice, tbla? 🙂
No, I'm looking for a Marantz CD67 or CD63 on ebay.fr, do you agree with my choice, tbla? 🙂
no.....!
but how about this one...
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3314309023&category=27784
but how about this one...
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3314309023&category=27784
why "no!"tbla said:no.....!
but how about this one...
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3314309023&category=27784
is it really worth it compared to a CD63 or CD67?
This one would cost 200€, and 20€ shipping minimum
I mailed the guy who sells itn yesterday, and he told me that the player is from 1992
Bricolo,
If you buy this CD72 player, you'll recive the schematic frome me for free and the modifications I'v made to the SE vertion of mine by e-mail.
The result is almost as good as the Wadia 8.
Trust me I'v done this befor!
Audiofanatic.

If you buy this CD72 player, you'll recive the schematic frome me for free and the modifications I'v made to the SE vertion of mine by e-mail.
The result is almost as good as the Wadia 8.
Trust me I'v done this befor!
Audiofanatic.






tbla,
Don't push the guy, If you buy the CD72 I'll send you the schematics and mod's I'f you need them.
Audiofanatic.
😉
Don't push the guy, If you buy the CD72 I'll send you the schematics and mod's I'f you need them.
Audiofanatic.
😉
but how good is it compared to a CD67/63?
I've found many reviews of these 2, but less about the CD72
CD72 is also older 🙁
I've found many reviews of these 2, but less about the CD72
CD72 is also older 🙁
The Marantz CD72 series really need an upgraded clock in my experience
Please note the CDM4 transport can be at the end of its life (mine did about 8 years).
Having modified the CD72-SE and CD72-MKII many years ago I would suggest buying an el cheapo Philips CD753 in stead.
This player with simple mods will sound better than the Marantz CD72-SE with Euro200 worth of mods (that's what I spent
).
Or get the Philips CD713/23 which can sound pretty good with the right mods like low jitter clock and a common base discrete output stage.

Please note the CDM4 transport can be at the end of its life (mine did about 8 years).
Having modified the CD72-SE and CD72-MKII many years ago I would suggest buying an el cheapo Philips CD753 in stead.
This player with simple mods will sound better than the Marantz CD72-SE with Euro200 worth of mods (that's what I spent

Or get the Philips CD713/23 which can sound pretty good with the right mods like low jitter clock and a common base discrete output stage.
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