Choice of CD-player
Hi Bricolo,
I was the proud owner of a a Sony CDP-X33 ES. 12 Years back when I bought it it was a expensive player. Unmodified it sounds horrible I think. It does everything wrong you hear about digital sound: fatiguing, harsh, lack of solid bass, lack of imaging,
Lately I only used it as a transport with of course my clock installed with my KWAK-DAC. (CS8412-Asynchronous Reclocker-TDA1543).
Now the Sony died painfull death and I acquired a flimsy all plastic affair Philips CD380.
Can you imagine my astonishment that the sound of this cheap player is better than my old tweaked combination?
And I even did not fit yet a new clock in the Philips....
So I suspect the Philips chipset and/or laser has something special.
I remembered some qoute in a old magazine that the Philips swingarm transport gives a very clean eyepattern. [Eyepattern is the bunch of sinuses that comes of the CD-disc read electronics. Everbody thinks it is a digital signal composed of zero's and ones but that is further upstream in the player] The reason Madrigal used the Philips transport in there CDP-1 to 3 line.
So now I am looking for a Philips CD-player, preferentially with remote control. I don't know if my post eases your choice but I can imagine your
l' embarras du choix😕
Hi Bricolo,
I was the proud owner of a a Sony CDP-X33 ES. 12 Years back when I bought it it was a expensive player. Unmodified it sounds horrible I think. It does everything wrong you hear about digital sound: fatiguing, harsh, lack of solid bass, lack of imaging,
Lately I only used it as a transport with of course my clock installed with my KWAK-DAC. (CS8412-Asynchronous Reclocker-TDA1543).
Now the Sony died painfull death and I acquired a flimsy all plastic affair Philips CD380.
Can you imagine my astonishment that the sound of this cheap player is better than my old tweaked combination?
And I even did not fit yet a new clock in the Philips....
So I suspect the Philips chipset and/or laser has something special.


I remembered some qoute in a old magazine that the Philips swingarm transport gives a very clean eyepattern. [Eyepattern is the bunch of sinuses that comes of the CD-disc read electronics. Everbody thinks it is a digital signal composed of zero's and ones but that is further upstream in the player] The reason Madrigal used the Philips transport in there CDP-1 to 3 line.
So now I am looking for a Philips CD-player, preferentially with remote control. I don't know if my post eases your choice but I can imagine your
l' embarras du choix😕
hi elso....i also think that you are on to something about the philips-combination - that is why i recommended the cdpro2 at first.
bricolo, if you can find something like this (cheap) :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3007791099&category=

bricolo, if you can find something like this (cheap) :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3007791099&category=

Bricolo said:all players you talk me about are much more that 300$![]()
maybe you have to face the fact that the player you want isnt going to be under $300? you want too much for what you want to pay. if there was a TRUE audiophile player for under $300, wouldnt everyone have one?
cowanrg said:
maybe you have to face the fact that the player you want isnt going to be under $300? you want too much for what you want to pay. if there was a TRUE audiophile player for under $300, wouldnt everyone have one?
I never said I wanted a true audiophile CD player
I "just" want something nice in my pricerange
A cheap one (under 300) that can be tweaked to sound great, would be perfect 🙂
btw this player will sound great when tweaked......:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3008853022&category=3272

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3008853022&category=3272








the joke is, that even a player at this price is far from good enough.....but it will make a good base for performing "the dance of the soldering iron"










I can't spend 1000$ on a CD player, neither 500! I'm a student
So please stop telling me that it won't sound great. 🙁 I've got 300$ MAX for this part, and I don't know what is good IN THIS PRICERANGE, that's why I asked for advices here

So please stop telling me that it won't sound great. 🙁 I've got 300$ MAX for this part, and I don't know what is good IN THIS PRICERANGE, that's why I asked for advices here
OK, on the cheap we bought some really inexpensive Apex units off the NET for under $100 USD, put in soft recovery rectifiers and Panasonic HF caps in the power-supply. Coupling caps, were changed to Wima stacked film.
For the dollars and time spent it was a real bargain. High end audio, well no. But it was musical and certainly better than any $300 player we know of. Total cash outlay well under $150.
Kent
Pass Labs

For the dollars and time spent it was a real bargain. High end audio, well no. But it was musical and certainly better than any $300 player we know of. Total cash outlay well under $150.
Kent
Pass Labs

Bricolo,
I had a Marantz CD72SE, the CD72 is almost as good as the SE vertion, If you want a player thats good and ready for modifications, this is the one!
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=27784
If you buy it, I'll look for the schematics and post them to you! that'll take a few weeks though!
They are in a box in the garage, one of the 12 boxes.
Audiofanatic
I had a Marantz CD72SE, the CD72 is almost as good as the SE vertion, If you want a player thats good and ready for modifications, this is the one!
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=27784
If you buy it, I'll look for the schematics and post them to you! that'll take a few weeks though!
They are in a box in the garage, one of the 12 boxes.
Audiofanatic
tbla said:
This is the one!
AF.
Apex mods
I'd definately be interested in hearing more on this one - I've got one or two apex units sitting around that are not in use I would love to toy with.... any details?
Travis
cyclotronguy said:OK, on the cheap we bought some really inexpensive Apex units off the NET for under $100 USD, put in soft recovery rectifiers and Panasonic HF caps in the power-supply. Coupling caps, were changed to Wima stacked film.
I'd definately be interested in hearing more on this one - I've got one or two apex units sitting around that are not in use I would love to toy with.... any details?
Travis
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