looking for a DIY end of record lift for a manual tt

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SY said:
I suspect that a silicone damped arm would be a better candidate for a device like this.
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Silicone damping got nothing to do with armlifting. Silicone damping controls vertical and lateral movements of the arm. I would highly recommend this instead of record lift.

Anyway.. At least for me and zillions other vynil listeners, automatic arm lift was always big no no.
If you think you need one, then you're not in the room and if you are not in da room you're not listening and if you're not lstening, you shouldn't be playing records in first place.. 😀
Buy yourself a ceedee player.. :clown:

Seriously.. Check this one out.. Maybe something for you.. (OMG!!!! Blowtorch TT chassis) 😛
http://presto.joanneum.ac.at/Public/D4_3.pdf
 
#83
Notorious said:

Silicone damping got nothing to do with armlifting. Silicone damping controls vertical and lateral movements of the arm. I would highly recommend this instead of record lift.

Anyway.. At least for me and zillions other vynil listeners, automatic arm lift was always big no no.
If you think you need one, then you're not in the room and if you are not in da room you're not listening and if you're not lstening, you shouldn't be playing records in first place.. 😀
Buy yourself a ceedee player.. :clown:

Seriously.. Check this one out.. Maybe something for you.. (OMG!!!! Blowtorch TT chassis) 😛
http://presto.joanneum.ac.at/Public/D4_3.pdf
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uhhmmmm,.....
actually, I critically listen, from the ultra cozy sweet spot. And depending on the music, and my mood, I might get tranced out, leading to that ethereal state of half way to sleep, but still slightly alert. There are times that I'd rather stay in that blissed out state rather than jump up and take the tonearm up.
ymmv,... but your generalization is fairly off-base as far as critical listening and the need for lift off of a manual 'table.


I was going to take pictures of this installation, but its so simple, and well documented by Mandys included set up direction sheet, that it really wasn't necessary, nor that critical.

For fellow P3 owners (robert j warren), I removed about 3/4", .7456, or so, from the verical height tube. I also removed about 1/4", .25", of the extension tube to the magnetic head. again - ymmv
 
#84
Re: Tonal on the way to me

robertjwarren said:
and I also have a P3...please explain the rubber grommets necessary for the cover to fit?

robert
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[strike comment]After mounting mine, I find that the overall height is such that it just barely touches the bottom side of the dust cover, just barely.[/strike comment]

OK,... So in the continuing micro-adjusting of my mounting, I was able to drop the vertical tube down just enough to clear the bottom side of the dust cover. So, no dust cover height alteration is necessary, at least to the Rega P3-24

I would think that to apply some black adhesive backed foam to the plinth. Its thickness will easily surpass the height needed. And it will add a seal around the cover.
from Home Depot, it's:
Frost King Rubber Foam WeatherSeal Self Stick Tape -- 3/8"wide 3/16" thick 10' long #R338
1/2" wide by 1/4" would be good as well. I just happen to already have what is listed above.
 
#85
Notorious said:

Anyway.. At least for me and zillions other vynil listeners, automatic arm lift was always big no no.
If you think you need one, then you're not in the room and if you are not in da room you're not listening and if you're not lstening, you shouldn't be playing records in first place.. 😀
Buy yourself a ceedee player.. :clown:
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Aside from the added manufacturing cost of a reliable auto lift/return mechanism (as in the early HiFi years), could you please tell me why the automatic arm lift was ALWAYS A BIG NO NO? Any effect on the sound?

The Tonal is reasonably priced and has no effect on the sound. It has nothing to do with one being a critical or non-critical listener. People use it for convenience and their "peace of mind".

I designed it so that I don't have to rush off and lift the tonearm when there is someone at the door, the phone rings, the wife summons or when I have to make a trip to the bathroom. Many find they can take their bath while playing a record, some will even fall asleep worry-free.

And I agree with Moke. When I am close to Audio Nirvana, the arm lift allows me to enjoy the bliss a little longer.
 
#86
kesth said:
This looks to be a great device. I'd be interested in one --the next production run? Has anyone noticed if the magnets have an impact on the sound? That would be my only concern.
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Hi Kesth,

There is a tiny foam pad over the magnet. Only the slightest thump is heard when the arm lifts. I find it desirable as an assurance that "lift off" has occurred 😉 😉 .
 
#88
Notorious said:

I have question for you.. Can you name one high-end TT with auto lift?
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You really shouldn't answer a question with another question. But let me indulge you by answering your simple question by a simple answer. No sir, I know of NO high end turntable that uses an automatic tone arm lifter. Knowing how much these tables cost, I am glad none of them offer the convenience! That would cost me another grand :xeye: .

This ends our little discussion, peace be to you.

Mandym
 
#90
Moke said:
Mandy,

satisfaction trumps skepticism.
good job on an incredibly well made miniaturized mechanism.
I'm a fabricator myself, and I can absolutely appreciate what you did with this.
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Thanks Moke. Since you seem to be able to appreciate craftsmanship, look at these other beauties I made:

Graphite unipivot tonearm
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Ebony unipivot tonearm on Ebony armpod:
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My pile of experimental tonearms:
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Sorry for the OT, but I can't contain my pride! I hope you are impressed 😉 😉
 
#92
mandym said:
You really shouldn't answer a question with another question. But let me indulge you by answering your simple question by a simple answer. No sir, I know of NO high end turntable that uses an automatic tone arm lifter. Knowing how much these tables cost, I am glad none of them offer the convenience! That would cost me another grand :xeye: .

This ends our little discussion, peace be to you.

Mandym
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Peace be with you too brotha..😀 Now, there you go.. I asked you a question with question hopeing you'd understand "No no" part, and you gave yourself an answer. 😉
I didn't meen to screw up your sales or anything though. 🙂
I don't know how much money I spend on turntables I had in the past but it must be well over 120,000 euro. If I really wanted to have something else, I don't think another 1000 or 2000 would make difference. So it isn't the extra price.
I don't really understand your remark "I am glad none of them offer the convenience! That would cost me another grand" Aren't you contradicting yourself a little?

Anyways to make it up to you, here is the link to (DIY) and High-End Turntables where they welcome new ideas.. Who knows.. Maybe I just made you a rich man.. 😀

Interesting note
In order to preserve analogue sound and make it rule again, we invite pick-up manufacturers and enthusiasts to e-mail us any interesting pictures of analogue set-ups to include them in this page and to establish contacts with other vinyl lovers. Please, use the following form and do not forget to fill-in with a small description for each file
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http://www.teresaudio.com/
http://aca.gr/turntable.htm

Oh and BTW.. I see you don't have autolift on two models you posted, and what is the benefit of lose tonarm on Ebony armpod no anti skating there? I always thought arm should be on TT chassis. But what do I know..
And is there any reason for placing the anti skating weight in the middle of gravity of Graphite unipivot tonearm?
 
#93
ManyM's Ebony Tonearm

Here's another one of MandyM's early designs:

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I borrowed this when I was still learning my way into making my own tonearm
 
#95
another tonal video - my version:
http://www.tapers.org/mfrench/tonal_arm_lifter/tonal_tonearm_lifter.avi

this thing is great.
I've even found my wife playing records. She loves it, because she can roam around the house and not worry about the end of album (she is not a critical listener).
All of her favorite music is on LP. We have about 12 commercial CD's, which she never listens to. Now she listens to music a whole lot more.
thanks for that, Mandy!
 
#96
That's a nice job Moke! Happy to hear about your wife getting back to LP listening.

You can fine tune further for a more delicate lift by simply turning the rear screw on the turret a bit counterclockwise.

Thanks for posting the Video.

Mandym
 
#97
Just read this post .. anymore tonearm lifters?

Hi MandyM
I too would find it hard to contain my pride given the examples of your work i have seen on this post. I dip my spanner to you.
Did you end up makig anymore lifters?
I live in Australia
Warm Regards
Nick
 
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