These are a very interesting line of speakers:
http://members.iweb.net.au/~edtim/cloth.html
2 ways with Peerless XLS woofers and tweeters. Nice prices as well.
WHat do you think? Are Peerless XLS drivers capable of being a good midbass?
http://members.iweb.net.au/~edtim/cloth.html
2 ways with Peerless XLS woofers and tweeters. Nice prices as well.
WHat do you think? Are Peerless XLS drivers capable of being a good midbass?
here are some different peerless kits from wes compoments
http://www.d-s-t.com.au/Ventura/HDSXLS_Intro.htm
I think yours look a lot better
you dont have email adress for them do you ?
Ilike the idea of being able to build your own boxes as well
http://www.d-s-t.com.au/Ventura/HDSXLS_Intro.htm
I think yours look a lot better
you dont have email adress for them do you ?
Ilike the idea of being able to build your own boxes as well
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i disagree. Peerless HDS are better for midbass duties. XLS for woofer/subwoofer applications. do you have any specs on those speakers?
peerless kits from Wes are reasonably good value, as far as australian kit speakers are concerned. i did a parts breakdown (AU$) a while ago, if anyone's interested i can send the excel spreadsheet. when you add up the cost of the raw internal parts alone, (ie. purchased from other vendors) the cabinets cost about $185 to $900 (a pair 5" bookshelf black vinyl to a pair of 1.2metre tall jarrah floorstanding cabinets).
the cabinets are fully built and finished and come with grills.
if i purchase a kit speaker i'd buy this one, not other kits whose raw MDF planks cost the equivalent of $600...
peerless kits from Wes are reasonably good value, as far as australian kit speakers are concerned. i did a parts breakdown (AU$) a while ago, if anyone's interested i can send the excel spreadsheet. when you add up the cost of the raw internal parts alone, (ie. purchased from other vendors) the cabinets cost about $185 to $900 (a pair 5" bookshelf black vinyl to a pair of 1.2metre tall jarrah floorstanding cabinets).
the cabinets are fully built and finished and come with grills.
if i purchase a kit speaker i'd buy this one, not other kits whose raw MDF planks cost the equivalent of $600...
sorry I think they are not XLS woofers, they are a special Peerless long throw double magnet variety of their normal woofers.
Umm why doesnt the WES website have the prices only for the smallest bookshlef model?
$900 for a pair of floorstanding cabinets...the cabinets cost about $185 to $900 (a pair 5" bookshelf black vinyl to a pair of 1.2metre tall jarrah floorstanding cabinets).
Umm not reallywhose raw MDF planks cost the equivalent of $600...
Umm why doesnt the WES website have the prices only for the smallest bookshlef model?
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tech.knockout,
i have just finished building my own floorstanding cabinets. here's the cost breakdown
MDF cut to size at Bunnings- $80
Acoustic Damping - $100
PVA Glue $10
Tmber veneer - $120
Dacron filling - $10
Danish Oil- $27
Wax - $38
PVC port- $5.
MDF for grill- $6
labour - too many hours.
Total price- ~$400.
$900 for a fully built fully finished cabinet is not unreasonable.
In line with Vaf cabinets eg. $1,000 for I66.
Now as a comparison have look at The Loudspeaker Kit's TL6...
WES prices are only available on request...
i have just finished building my own floorstanding cabinets. here's the cost breakdown
MDF cut to size at Bunnings- $80
Acoustic Damping - $100
PVA Glue $10
Tmber veneer - $120
Dacron filling - $10
Danish Oil- $27
Wax - $38
PVC port- $5.
MDF for grill- $6
labour - too many hours.
Total price- ~$400.
$900 for a fully built fully finished cabinet is not unreasonable.
In line with Vaf cabinets eg. $1,000 for I66.
Now as a comparison have look at The Loudspeaker Kit's TL6...
WES prices are only available on request...
oh i see what you mean. But yeh with the comment on MDF planks being $600
here are the woofer specs(or what i think the woofer is), http://www.d-s-t.com/peerless/data/850490.htm
what do you think?
here are the woofer specs(or what i think the woofer is), http://www.d-s-t.com/peerless/data/850490.htm
what do you think?
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i have no direct experience with that driver, but Linkwitz did a midrange driver distortion comparison, and the 2 the Peerless HDS that he measured performed well, to the point he considered them definite performance/price leaders.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030411223212/www.linkwitzlab.com/mid_dist.htm
if u can get some hard facts about actual driver models, crossover topology etc we can make a guestimate as to how well it might perform.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030411223212/www.linkwitzlab.com/mid_dist.htm
if u can get some hard facts about actual driver models, crossover topology etc we can make a guestimate as to how well it might perform.
These do not use the 8" HDS unit, all the drivers listed here have convex dustcaps, the HDS are concave. The look similar to the XLS range of drivers but they are not. To me they look like long throw versions of the SDS range. Obviously custom designs.
So combined XLS with with SDS.
So combined XLS with with SDS.
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fishball79,
i found the dacron at an upholstery shop. u know places that repair old chairs, lounge suites etc? there's bound to be a few in your state. (usually in industrial/manufuring suburbs)
when i asked they immediately knew exactly what i wanted, then queried what density i wanted. usually people just ask "what's dacron?!"
not sure if bunnings do 45 degree mitre cuts or route. sorry.
i used butt joints and cut the holes myself.
my next pair of speakers will use pre-veneered MDF and i'll get the suppliers to cut them to size and 45 degrees as well.
veneering aint easy...
<sigh>
i found the dacron at an upholstery shop. u know places that repair old chairs, lounge suites etc? there's bound to be a few in your state. (usually in industrial/manufuring suburbs)
when i asked they immediately knew exactly what i wanted, then queried what density i wanted. usually people just ask "what's dacron?!"
not sure if bunnings do 45 degree mitre cuts or route. sorry.
i used butt joints and cut the holes myself.
my next pair of speakers will use pre-veneered MDF and i'll get the suppliers to cut them to size and 45 degrees as well.
veneering aint easy...
<sigh>
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fishball79,
no worries, happy to help.
being in brisbane you can get all sorts of veneer and pre-veneered MDF from Brims Wood Supply
no idea how much it costs, but i suspect once u sum up the price of individual MDF purchased and cut at bunnings, veneer, a litre of glue/contact cement and time and effort trying to get the veneering perfect, the pre-veneered shouldn't be too much of a stretch. i may be wrong though.
the only difficulty now is trying to figure out how to make joins (obviously you can't do butt joints with pre-veneered stuff and mitre joints are a pain (even assuming the supplier can cut PERFECT 45 degrees, lining up 12 mitre joints to form a square box may not be easy)
if you do purchase some please pop me a PM to let me know the prices.
cheers.
no worries, happy to help.
being in brisbane you can get all sorts of veneer and pre-veneered MDF from Brims Wood Supply
no idea how much it costs, but i suspect once u sum up the price of individual MDF purchased and cut at bunnings, veneer, a litre of glue/contact cement and time and effort trying to get the veneering perfect, the pre-veneered shouldn't be too much of a stretch. i may be wrong though.
the only difficulty now is trying to figure out how to make joins (obviously you can't do butt joints with pre-veneered stuff and mitre joints are a pain (even assuming the supplier can cut PERFECT 45 degrees, lining up 12 mitre joints to form a square box may not be easy)
if you do purchase some please pop me a PM to let me know the prices.
cheers.
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