Ok, here's my home. Not sure if these pictures help at all. So it would be easy to put them in the ceiling. But of course that's not ideal. What about converting one of these ceiling cabinets to a speaker enclosure? Is that a stupid idea. Or the floor ones, but then they will be pointed at the floor....
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Both of those flat-pak kits are larger volume than what is optimum for the drivers. 18mm maretial is overkill.
FF85wk in 2-2.5 liter, FF105 in twice that.
dave
FF85wk in 2-2.5 liter, FF105 in twice that.
dave
Ok, here's my home. Not sure if these pictures help at all. So it would be easy to put them in the ceiling. But of course that's not ideal. What about converting one of these ceiling cabinets to a speaker enclosure? Is that a stupid idea. Or the floor ones, but then they will be pointed at the floor....
Just build a pair of uFonken. Plans are here: Frugal-phile | Box Library / Fostex
Build a cardboard mock-up and use it to figure out where they can go (i can see quite a few -- you'll need to rig roof or wall mounts for them). Then after you build them, you can play with all the places you could put them and see which works best for you.
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I bought some Vifas. They are so cheap I figured I might as well install them in the ceiling, if nothing else it's a vast improvement on what's here now.
But, I'm interested in building some stand alone speakers as well. And, now that I have a basic system going (as soon as it arrives) I can also take a bit of time and put a little more money into it if needed.
That being the case, for a small space like my van, is the Fostex 85WK with uFonkens my best bet? Looks like a manageable enclosure for my limited knowledge so I'd be game for it.
I bought some Vifas. They are so cheap I figured I might as well install them in the ceiling, if nothing else it's a vast improvement on what's here now.
But, I'm interested in building some stand alone speakers as well. And, now that I have a basic system going (as soon as it arrives) I can also take a bit of time and put a little more money into it if needed.
That being the case, for a small space like my van, is the Fostex 85WK with uFonkens my best bet? Looks like a manageable enclosure for my limited knowledge so I'd be game for it.
As long as you have the Vifa's you could make these:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/252627-viva-la-vifa-curvy-cabinet-dcr-tc9fd.html
They can be made with rectilinear panels very easily.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/252627-viva-la-vifa-curvy-cabinet-dcr-tc9fd.html
They can be made with rectilinear panels very easily.
Got the Vifas today. Will probably install this evening. What do you guys think would be best, in ceiling or in one of these cupboards?
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And If I mount them in ceiling, how far away from the cupboard should they be?
If I put them in the cabinet do you think it's still ok to have stuff inside the cabinet? I could just make the cabinet a speaker enclosure and keep my clothes somewhere else.
Or maybe in the wall here (if there's enough room in the wall) on the flat part facing back into the camper on both sides of the entrance.
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And If I mount them in ceiling, how far away from the cupboard should they be?
If I put them in the cabinet do you think it's still ok to have stuff inside the cabinet? I could just make the cabinet a speaker enclosure and keep my clothes somewhere else.
Or maybe in the wall here (if there's enough room in the wall) on the flat part facing back into the camper on both sides of the entrance.
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OK, got them installed in the ceiling. Obviously not ideal, but I must say, I'm already quite impressed with these tiny guys. Plenty of sound. Some weird issues with eqing because of the set up, and sometimes the bass literally sounds like someone knocking on the ceiling... I could imagine with a good enclosure these would really be great.
Anyway, already quite happy. Big big improvement on how I was listening to music up until now. Thanks very much for the tip. Can't imagine better for 38 euros...!!
Anyway, already quite happy. Big big improvement on how I was listening to music up until now. Thanks very much for the tip. Can't imagine better for 38 euros...!!
FWIW,
Pioneer TS-MR1640 6-1/2" Marine Coaxial Speaker Pair
I use these in my small sailboat with 2050 amp...heresy around here, I know, but sound is better than it should be...no box required.
Pioneer TS-MR1640 6-1/2" Marine Coaxial Speaker Pair
I use these in my small sailboat with 2050 amp...heresy around here, I know, but sound is better than it should be...no box required.
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So, coming back from a tour with slightly more dough than expected. Considering adding a subwoofer. Any suggestions? Also, how would I need to set it up with my Topping TP22 and Tc9fds?
Ah, another question... What would I need to hook up a record player to the Topping amp?
Ah, another question... What would I need to hook up a record player to the Topping amp?
Amazon.com: Behringer PP400 Ultra-Compact Phono Preamp: Musical Instruments
Do you want to diy the sub or buy one RTR (ready to rock)?
Do you want to diy the sub or buy one RTR (ready to rock)?
Great, that looks affordable!
I would go for the most basic DIY set up. Not a lot of room here so I would probably just install it in one of the floor cabinet areas. Of course this won't be an ideal enclosure with precise volume etc, so that's probably also a big factor in which driver I should get.
I saw somewhere a recommendation for these, which are certainly in my price range, even with shipping. SPEAKERS 12" MCM NUMBER 55-1655 MADE IN TAIWAN ONE PAIR FOR SALE | eBay
I would go for the most basic DIY set up. Not a lot of room here so I would probably just install it in one of the floor cabinet areas. Of course this won't be an ideal enclosure with precise volume etc, so that's probably also a big factor in which driver I should get.
I saw somewhere a recommendation for these, which are certainly in my price range, even with shipping. SPEAKERS 12" MCM NUMBER 55-1655 MADE IN TAIWAN ONE PAIR FOR SALE | eBay
Are you planning to power the sub with a plate amp? If so you'd likely need to use the speaker level inputs...more wiring than you might want to do.
out there idea i know but you should some car speakers in you Car cause there designed to work in your car brooooooooooooom zoooooom bump pa bumpa
Prighello: I have no idea how to do it! Is that what I'd need, a plate amp? Can you recommend a good cheap one that would fit my set up (Topping 2050)?
fatbettery: only concern is I assume car gear is designed to work well with the extra noise of a running engine. MY van doesn't run, it's just my home, so maybe it needs a slightly different set-up? But, in general, I am more than happy to look at car subs. In fact, I think most of the ones I've been checking out are just that.
fatbettery: only concern is I assume car gear is designed to work well with the extra noise of a running engine. MY van doesn't run, it's just my home, so maybe it needs a slightly different set-up? But, in general, I am more than happy to look at car subs. In fact, I think most of the ones I've been checking out are just that.
So would something like this work?
Dayton Audio SA25 25W Subwoofer Plate Amplifier
I have no problem running the wires...
Dayton Audio SA25 25W Subwoofer Plate Amplifier
I have no problem running the wires...
So would something like this work?
Dayton Audio SA25 25W Subwoofer Plate Amplifier
I have no problem running the wires...
Yeah, something like that would work with the right sub. 25w though is lite for most subs. You'd need something really sensitive or small. Two ways to do this.
1. Use the speaker level inputs on the plate amp and it's cross over to tune the sub/speakers. This the ideal way.
2. Use a signal splitter to run the signal to both the topping and the plate amp. The speakers run in full range with sub. This is less wiring.
Either way I'd do a cost/benefit to just buying a powered sub because sometimes it's not cost effective to build one. Best of luck and keep the questions coming if you don't totally "get it" right away.
Also, fattbattery might be on to something with a car audio sub/amp. They can run off the battery.
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