Does anyone know whether visible light is actually a part of the electromagnetic spectrum? Is it perhaps a photon discharge instead?
Light is a part of the EM spectrum. An elegant demonstration of this can be seen by the cosmic background radiation, light that is so Doppler shifted that it appears as microwaves. However, on smaller scales, light does also exhibit particle like qualities, and these are called photons. This whole aspect is known as wave/particle duality, and I'm sure a google search will give you more info than you ever wanted. A particularly good example is the two slit experiment.
Both? I thought I'd not heard a straight answer before! 😉
I can surmise from the two slit experiment that the null patterns suggest wave like behaviour, and the fact that light intensity responds to temperature, for one thing suggests it has mass.
Thanks Pinkmouse.
I can surmise from the two slit experiment that the null patterns suggest wave like behaviour, and the fact that light intensity responds to temperature, for one thing suggests it has mass.
Thanks Pinkmouse.
Light intensity is just number of photons per second. Light energy per photon is directly proportional to frequency.
And to make things worse, all electromagnetic interaction, even simple Coulombic attraction/repulsion, is mediated by exchanges of photons...
And to make things worse, all electromagnetic interaction, even simple Coulombic attraction/repulsion, is mediated by exchanges of photons...
Coloumb. Isn't he that guy that said one Coloumb per second equals one Amp? It sounds as if you're talking about electrons in a conductor, but this isn't EMI is it? Maybe you're saying that antenna interactions are subject to photon like behaviour?
Any electromagnetic interaction, whether RF, light, magnets attracting or repelling, charges attracting or repelling, infrared radiation, whatever, is an exchange of photons.
You learn something every day. I had my head in RF gear. It's easy to forget that magnetism goes down to DC.
That reminds me, I recently took delivery of some neodymium/iron/boron magnets. Very cool, good for party tricks.
I think I wanted to do something with ribbons. I'm a bit worried it will take more of my time than I have right now. Hmm, it would be nice.
That reminds me, I recently took delivery of some neodymium/iron/boron magnets. Very cool, good for party tricks.
I think I wanted to do something with ribbons. I'm a bit worried it will take more of my time than I have right now. Hmm, it would be nice.
Succinct and excellent answers; a general acknowledgement of light's being a portion of the electromagnetic spectrum is the characterization of a broadband amplifier as being flat from DC to daylight 😉 .
A spectral chart is fun; shows ELF waves up through microwave, infra red, visible, UV, X-Rays out to hard gamma rays.
A spectral chart is fun; shows ELF waves up through microwave, infra red, visible, UV, X-Rays out to hard gamma rays.
SY said:
And to make things worse, all electromagnetic interaction, even simple Coulombic attraction/repulsion, is mediated by exchanges of photons...
Tanks sigh. I had no idea. Additional clarity. hhhmmm ...angluar components/resultants of field stressing.
Did you ever take a a look at the 'compleat' Maxwell's equations which are now published on the net? The complete quarternion version, instead of Heavside's simplified version for engineering idiots? You know, the original-the one that mathematically allows for what we speculatively call 'over-unity', simply because we have been denied the math..which oddy enough....has been in existence for well over 100 years. Gotta love those self important types, who modify a man's work, after he dies. And ruin it in the process.
I never studied the Heaviside version, just the stuff in Jackson (shudder!). I don't think we needed quaternians.
just do a quick search for the duality of light ... that should give you an idea about the wave vs particle theory... or both, as it seems to be.
Think about what the constant creation of croutons does for a salad. All truths have symmetry.
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So it seems that the only thing we can be certain of is that we are uncertain. If we just knew how uncertain then of that we could be certain.
I'm learning that both wave theory and particle theory are good approximations which tend to be chosen arbitrarily as it suits a purpose. But neither is accurate.
This unified theory is stirring me up. If only I'd been taught properly from the start. Anyway, I know the answer. It's 42!
I'm learning that both wave theory and particle theory are good approximations which tend to be chosen arbitrarily as it suits a purpose. But neither is accurate.
This unified theory is stirring me up. If only I'd been taught properly from the start. Anyway, I know the answer. It's 42!
Indm,
Both wave and particle are accurate; as long as you don't apply both at the time. Either question begs a different answer. It gets worse.
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Both wave and particle are accurate; as long as you don't apply both at the time. Either question begs a different answer. It gets worse.
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it's really closer to 43 if you round up....
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I'm sure that after 7.5 million years of computation the number 42 is reliable.
Cheers
Rob
it's really closer to 43 if you round up....
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I'm sure that after 7.5 million years of computation the number 42 is reliable.
Cheers
Rob
Thanks for the vote of confidence rpapps, I thought I was going to have to build a bigger computer.
It sure does 😉Originally posted by poobah Both wave and particle are accurate; as long as you don't apply both at the time. Either question begs a different answer. It gets worse.
I'm looking at Young's interference.
It really reminds me of D'Appolito and two (large) pinholes. I feel as if this can be solved via wave theory. The waves do travel through air but this does seem circumstantial. I think we'd get the same result if we put the air's mass to one side (so to speak).
OTOH, I guess if I imagined the air as the medium and excited it, then only looked at mass and energy, collisions and divisions of energy, we'd get the same result, or would we?
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I thought you did! Paid the Earth for it I heard.
I thought I was going to have to build a bigger computer.
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I thought you did! Paid the Earth for it I heard.
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