Spoke with Per today and the 8" drivers aren't ready.
I'd asked for the moving parts of the C-Quenze to be fitted to a flexunit basket/motor and, along with the suspension compliance changes, its proving more tricky to do that he originally thought. Looks like mid to late May now, which is a bit gutting but Per is confident that I'll be satisfied with the drivers.
I'd asked for the moving parts of the C-Quenze to be fitted to a flexunit basket/motor and, along with the suspension compliance changes, its proving more tricky to do that he originally thought. Looks like mid to late May now, which is a bit gutting but Per is confident that I'll be satisfied with the drivers.
<sigh>... Well, this is the trade-off for having custom designed and built drivers. I'm sure, in the end, it will be worth the wait. I know how I would feel if I was in your position, but consider it this way. There is not another way to get the drivers you actually want, so, this was still the best decision for the project.
Its nothing fantastic, just another bit of the cabinet after spraying. The image is showing at this end so it should be OK.
I can't see it either...
By the way, amazing work. I've followed this and your last build closely and your work always amazes me.
By the way, amazing work. I've followed this and your last build closely and your work always amazes me.
Shin,
I am in the market for some spray equipment; what are you using and what capacity air compressor is required to run it?
Ray
I am in the market for some spray equipment; what are you using and what capacity air compressor is required to run it?
Ray
Hi Shin, the last photo you have shows the mdf creep you spoke of in the new thread, how will you 'fix' that at this late stage?? How long did it take in this case to show up?
Must be a bugger for you (and all the extended family who watch your progress with vicarious pride and pleasure!)
Must be a bugger for you (and all the extended family who watch your progress with vicarious pride and pleasure!)
terry j said:
I've done nothing to treat or minimise that because it will be well hidden when its sat between the upper and lower mid/bass enclosures, I guess you could say I got lazy because I know it will never be seen after the cabinet is assembled. On the bits that do matter I've observed either mitred joints or the butt joints with 9mm MDF skin and have no joint creep back even 3 weeks down the line.
FYI: The joints on that reappeared a few hours after spraying.
Its funny because whenever someone sees the stuff all over the dinning room, I usually get asked when am I going to tidy it up a bit. Hmmm....
Ray Collins said:
Hi Ray,
All the info is pretty much in these links:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1187601#post1187601
If there's something more specific feel free to ask and I'll try to help out.
ShinOBIWAN said:
Its funny because whenever someone sees the stuff all over the dinning room, I usually get asked when am I going to tidy it up a bit. Hmmm....
They just don't understand that you are an artist! ..and with any good art, sacrifices MUST be made. 😀
(..I don't doubt that they also ask you when you are going to "settle down", "find a nice girl", etc.. ..and for me thats usually about the time I'm thinking: "hmm, I found a girl last weekend - and she was very "nice".
)Shin,
I am particularly interested in an HVLP system. As I understand it thick, viscous liquids are troublesome to them. Have you tried one and if so to what conclusion? I no longer can accommodate a compressor and tank large enough to run high pressure systems like the Binks suction guns that I used in the past.
Ray
I am particularly interested in an HVLP system. As I understand it thick, viscous liquids are troublesome to them. Have you tried one and if so to what conclusion? I no longer can accommodate a compressor and tank large enough to run high pressure systems like the Binks suction guns that I used in the past.
Ray
ScottG said:
Artist? What kind of artist? Don't answer that 😉
(..I don't doubt that they also ask you when you are going to "settle down", "find a nice girl", etc.. ..and for me thats usually about the time I'm thinking: "hmm, I found a girl last weekend - and she was very "nice".
Ha, that's pretty much the gist of it. To which I reply rather selfishly "why on earth would I want someone else to spend my money when I do it so well already?" 😀
Ray Collins said:
Ray
I'm really not sure about the HVLP stuff, I've never used any of it. I must say the more respected stuff looks very good and I like the idea of laying more paint material down with less wastage.
Sorry I couldn't offer anything useful. On the plus side there's plenty of knowledgeable outlets selling these that would be able to advise on the pro and cons.
Ant
I have a bit of experience using turbine driven HVLP setups.
Accuspray guns performed the best for me. Their turbines are very good too. They will lay out paint as well as any compressed air gun.
With the proper setup you can spray anything that can be sprayed.
From water soluble dye, contact cement, latex, lacquer, urethanes, epoxies, waterbornes, whatever. Just need the proper turbine and tip setup.
The very heavy liquids like latex paint and adhesives usually need to be supplied by pressure pot/cup for best results.
The turbines capable of spraying the really heavy stuff have small compressors built in for that.
The good turbines and guns are pricey.
If there's anything specific I'll try to answer.
Accuspray guns performed the best for me. Their turbines are very good too. They will lay out paint as well as any compressed air gun.
With the proper setup you can spray anything that can be sprayed.
From water soluble dye, contact cement, latex, lacquer, urethanes, epoxies, waterbornes, whatever. Just need the proper turbine and tip setup.
The very heavy liquids like latex paint and adhesives usually need to be supplied by pressure pot/cup for best results.
The turbines capable of spraying the really heavy stuff have small compressors built in for that.
The good turbines and guns are pricey.
If there's anything specific I'll try to answer.
Ray Collins said:
Thanks for that, I have been considering a turbine HVLP system. I wondered if they were any good. I've seen a Sealey one for about £150. Is there any specs I can check to see if it's any good?
Sadly, except for some basic turbine performance numbers there really is little to go on except what comes out after you're done! There are no numbers that tell how well any particular gun will perform.
3-4 stage turbines rated at 85cfm or higher at ~6-10psi are the norm for good performance. 4 stage at more than 100 or so cfm gets into the more serious production range.
2 stage turbines can be fine for occasional/hobbyist use if the gun performs well enough. Might not have enough power for thicker materials but will spray most common wood and auto finishes, but not house/wall paint. Life span will be shorter than 3 or 4 stage units.
I guess ask around see if anyone has used that model. Maybe try some woodworking or auto finishing forums.
If you can find a place that sells to professional finishers, their opinion might be worth the time.
Also look into rentals. That can be a good way to try before you buy.
3-4 stage turbines rated at 85cfm or higher at ~6-10psi are the norm for good performance. 4 stage at more than 100 or so cfm gets into the more serious production range.
2 stage turbines can be fine for occasional/hobbyist use if the gun performs well enough. Might not have enough power for thicker materials but will spray most common wood and auto finishes, but not house/wall paint. Life span will be shorter than 3 or 4 stage units.
I guess ask around see if anyone has used that model. Maybe try some woodworking or auto finishing forums.
If you can find a place that sells to professional finishers, their opinion might be worth the time.
Also look into rentals. That can be a good way to try before you buy.
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