FYI, if you are interested, there is currently a Leach amp group buy for pcbs and parts.
wiki
http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index....p+PCB+Group+Buy
Then click the "edit" or use this link:
http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index....p+PCB+Group+Buy
orig thread:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52459&perpage=10&pagenumber=1
Just in case people might have missed this on the Solid State Forum.
wiki
http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index....p+PCB+Group+Buy
Then click the "edit" or use this link:
http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index....p+PCB+Group+Buy
orig thread:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52459&perpage=10&pagenumber=1
Just in case people might have missed this on the Solid State Forum.
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Joined 2002
How many would be interested in a parts group buy ? ipriced out one transister for the out put stage today 9$ cdn each : O ) The more we buy the cheaper they get 😀
Mr. JLeaman,
I read the thread and check Jens' web site. I am somewhat unsure. Which output devices are used in this amp (power output too)? Also the heatsink requirement for convection cooling?
Second, do you have an idea what the parts will cost?
I might be in for 2 or more if we also have a GP for parts.
I read the thread and check Jens' web site. I am somewhat unsure. Which output devices are used in this amp (power output too)? Also the heatsink requirement for convection cooling?
Second, do you have an idea what the parts will cost?
I might be in for 2 or more if we also have a GP for parts.
The link to the LeachParts group buy Wiki doesnt seem to work.
I am not interested in output devices, but i am in some of the other parts.
I am not interested in output devices, but i am in some of the other parts.
jacco vermeulen said:The link to the LeachParts group buy Wiki doesnt seem to work.
Try this:
http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/index.php?page=+Leach+Amp+PCB+Group+Buy
If it doesn'yt work go in the wiki page and select:
Everything Else (mostly Group buys)
on the next page you will find it.
Hi all,
Jens has added a 100 pcs column.
Would all prospective purchasers please update their line to show your order, if the price hits the 100pcs discount.
It now appears we are heading beyond 80 boards.
Jens has added a 100 pcs column.
Would all prospective purchasers please update their line to show your order, if the price hits the 100pcs discount.
It now appears we are heading beyond 80 boards.
Data for the 6 transistor version can be found here:
http://www.delta-audio.com/temp_jens/Leach ver 6.0.6.zip
Please comment and accept these data before I start collecting the payments
Thanks
\Jens
http://www.delta-audio.com/temp_jens/Leach ver 6.0.6.zip
Please comment and accept these data before I start collecting the payments
Thanks
\Jens
Hi Jens,
2 suggestions
1. add a third input to bypass the DC blocking caps (for a sub).
2. Is there room to squeeze in the traces to provide the dc setting as done in KSA50 (4 resistors, 2 diodes & 1multiturn pot)?
I am having trouble reading the PCB pdfs. The black background obliterates the traces except at 300% and above. Can you do a colour for the background (backplane)?
2 suggestions
1. add a third input to bypass the DC blocking caps (for a sub).
2. Is there room to squeeze in the traces to provide the dc setting as done in KSA50 (4 resistors, 2 diodes & 1multiturn pot)?
I am having trouble reading the PCB pdfs. The black background obliterates the traces except at 300% and above. Can you do a colour for the background (backplane)?
Andrew,
1) ok, I will use a 3 pin input header, and use on as DC coubled input.
2) There is no need for a DC pot, I have not measured above 40mV DC on the output on any of the 8 channels I have build using 1% resistors and unmatched semiconductors.
About the PDF, I can make a better resulution (BIG files 🙁), or I can post GIF pictures in stead of the PDFs
\Jens
1) ok, I will use a 3 pin input header, and use on as DC coubled input.
2) There is no need for a DC pot, I have not measured above 40mV DC on the output on any of the 8 channels I have build using 1% resistors and unmatched semiconductors.
About the PDF, I can make a better resulution (BIG files 🙁), or I can post GIF pictures in stead of the PDFs
\Jens
DC setting
Hi AndrewT.
I build the first Leach in '81 and one amp had a little offset, 73 mv.
To make this zero i added an (outboard)offsetcircuit like the KSA50.
Before building the second channell i paired the small signal transistors and when it was finished the offset was about 15 mv.
Perhaps Jens can give us his amps offset voltage?
Good luck, Loek
Jens is very fast, he answered before I could post....
Hi AndrewT.
I build the first Leach in '81 and one amp had a little offset, 73 mv.
To make this zero i added an (outboard)offsetcircuit like the KSA50.
Before building the second channell i paired the small signal transistors and when it was finished the offset was about 15 mv.
Perhaps Jens can give us his amps offset voltage?
Good luck, Loek
Jens is very fast, he answered before I could post....
Just to make the thing complete, I will look into the DC setting,
Could someone point me to where I can find an examble of the circuit?
\Jens
Could someone point me to where I can find an examble of the circuit?
\Jens
Hi Jens,
Pinkmouse posted http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=633428&stamp=1115075661 (about post 1673?)just a couple of days ago (just my luck cos they're over 1700 posts now)
The components are VR1, R103-107, R131, D109, 110, C110, 111.
Pinkmouse posted http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=633428&stamp=1115075661 (about post 1673?)just a couple of days ago (just my luck cos they're over 1700 posts now)
The components are VR1, R103-107, R131, D109, 110, C110, 111.
dc offset
Hi Jens, I dont 'think it is needed. But you can indeed use this circuit.
In the Krell it is connected to the feedbackside of the input circuit.
I made it more simple without R104 and R106 and placed it to the input side. R131 is 47k in my amp and I also placed a small cap from the wiper to ground.
Loek
Hi Jens, I dont 'think it is needed. But you can indeed use this circuit.
In the Krell it is connected to the feedbackside of the input circuit.
I made it more simple without R104 and R106 and placed it to the input side. R131 is 47k in my amp and I also placed a small cap from the wiper to ground.
Loek
1 The added pads on the boards for raised front end voltage are very nice.
2 Would it be an idea, (and possible), to add Michael's triple soa protection to the board ?
3 with 10 components added for DC-zeroing you might as well make it an active offet regulation with an OP** opamp.
With the current layout i dont see the room for adding that many components. But i am not a pcb-designer.
2 Would it be an idea, (and possible), to add Michael's triple soa protection to the board ?
3 with 10 components added for DC-zeroing you might as well make it an active offet regulation with an OP** opamp.
With the current layout i dont see the room for adding that many components. But i am not a pcb-designer.
Jens,
Have you sought any comment from Prof. Leach re the boards and the layout? After almost 30 years of experience with this circuit, he may have some valuable input.
Have you sought any comment from Prof. Leach re the boards and the layout? After almost 30 years of experience with this circuit, he may have some valuable input.
pooge said:Have you sought any comment from Prof. Leach re the boards and the layout?
On the Leach thread i suggested to ask BrianGt to approach Professor Leach for advice on the design.
Brian is a former student of Marshall Leach, and still resides in Georgia afaik.
Personally, i would be more than interested in what Professor Leach would suggest for the feedback values when using higher bandwidth devices. imo, this is/could be the V5 design.
jacco vermeulen said:1 The added pads on the boards for raised front end voltage are very nice.
2 Would it be an idea, (and possible), to add Michael's triple soa protection to the board ?
3 with 10 components added for DC-zeroing you might as well make it an active offet regulation with an OP** opamp.
With the current layout i dont see the room for adding that many components. But i am not a pcb-designer.
1) Well, you always wanted those anyways, so I figured what the heck.
2) I already made a dual slope soa protection awalible on the board by adding R68 and R69
3) I played arround with the DC circuit last night, but could not fit it without redoing the input section. Should I bother or just leave it the way it is?
\Jens
JensRasmussen said:I played arround with the DC circuit last night, but could not fit it without redoing the input section. Should I bother or just leave it the way it is?
speaking for myself:
i will be matching devices anyway, if needed i'll measure a number of resistors and pick the one that makes DC offset minimal, or pick a device that does that .
If the outcome doesnt please me i'll add an active offset regulation, with an amplifier as the Leach i have no problems with that.
The front part i like the way it is, is is closely nested, nice symmetrical, well separated from the current part by the big capacitor spacing.
Leave it !
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