Has anyone seen this product? Not really sure what the story is? Apparently pair's will soon be available for $9000 not including subwoofers. Seems interesting and perhaps overbuilt.
https://langeloudspeakers.com/en/high-end-audio/181241/yocto
https://langeloudspeakers.com/en/high-end-audio/181241/yocto
Hi, similar goals that any project should think about, very well thought out structure acoustically! Trade-off with this one is low sensitivity as with any small full range driver. And the top octave is beaming and breaking up, but that is just a compromise they took. Perhaps very nice for background music and smooth listening but can't throw a loud party with it. Over engineered in a sense that any of this is not needed to enjoy music, but if they wanted to make acoustically good structure this is pretty much what it takes, lots of work. Loud party would benefit some other system.
Not even a word on any measurements, sensitivity, distortion or whatever else... just from 100 Hz up at 24db/octave
The speakers are very attractive looking from a design perspective. Over engineered primarily in the sense of cncing entire enclosures out of blocks of aluminum. That type of process at a small scale is useful for prototyping and NASA instruments. I presume there are more logical, cost effective, ecological ways to achieve the same effect -- horizontally oriented stacked plywood being the primary alternative that comes to mind.
For sure, and as this particular speaker is quite small you could just 3d print it. Almost as good performance could be had with good ol' roundovers /slants. Key there is to avoid diffraction. Point source is another good quality, put these together and there it is, nice limited bandwidth/SPL speaker. You could compromise some of either to get more bandwidth/SPL. For example any coaxial speaker would do, except it is very hard to get by without any diffraction. Make a big sphere. Multiple entry horns could be a thing, but there is some diffraction from the taps at least. Not sure how much of it matters.
Any loudspeakers revolve around same issues, many do well, many not so well like direct radiating tweeters on rectangular baffle with bigger drivers, diffraction galore, not a point source, still likable. This is the key, many people just don't think about it too much. We can do much better by just using sufficiently big roundovers and good waveguide. Getting some SPL and even dispersion pretty much requires multiple various sized transducer system, point source or not.
Any loudspeakers revolve around same issues, many do well, many not so well like direct radiating tweeters on rectangular baffle with bigger drivers, diffraction galore, not a point source, still likable. This is the key, many people just don't think about it too much. We can do much better by just using sufficiently big roundovers and good waveguide. Getting some SPL and even dispersion pretty much requires multiple various sized transducer system, point source or not.
Just saw this post and wish herewith to point out a few things regarding YOCTO. It is a loudspeaker intended for High End - home entertainment that, in conjunction with our subwoofers is generally more than enough in terms of power reserve. Sensitivity is relatively low, but we also try to be as conservative as possible with specifications. YOCTO delivers high end performance if used correctly and can outshine larger systems thanks to two main reasons; first of all it has to be used in conjunction with an electronic crossover from 100Hz up (24dB oct), we suggest the Fully Analog K231 from Sublime Acoustics; second the YOCTO has a two layered 32 mm coil with decent 5,5 mm Xmax, granting, together with 24dB 100Hz HP Filter a surprisingly high volume; Of course the YOCTO could be made of plastic...but who would buy a McIntosh Amplifier if the front plate would be plastic? If selling quantities will rise, we would be glad to manufacture the YOCTO with an industrial process such as Aluminum Injection molding (see Genelec) or so; right now, CNC machining allows to open a niece and to change the design even if production is running and, we do not foresee quantities to rise so much to impose injection molding. As an example, we have been demonstrating the YOCTO / TERA combination in Köln-Germany and AB tested the loudspeakers with a loudspeaker system consisting of one HF Ribbon tweeter, one 6,5” MF unit and one 10” LF unit; after 2 hours listening, we had a distribution for Germany mostly due to the surprisingly better result of our combination and volume was more than enough in a 40 square meter room. We hope that the coming YouTube reviews and exhibitions will give more consistent information regarding our systems not in terms of numbers but in terms of effective result (listening experience). The price, by the way, for direct sales is more convenient than in Germany where we have a distributor.
Eclipse crossed with B&W midrange pod with the big Cabasse 4-way coax. A good idea, but not new.
I have been thinking of developing something similar but with a single FR driver, made possible by 3-D printing, to act as a midTweeter in WAWs.
The CNCed approach definitly pushes the price way up, with good engineering one should be able to achieve simialr performance.
dave
I have been thinking of developing something similar but with a single FR driver, made possible by 3-D printing, to act as a midTweeter in WAWs.
The CNCed approach definitly pushes the price way up, with good engineering one should be able to achieve simialr performance.
dave
Hi Dave, thanks for the comment, I always appreciate to read what people thinks…we know how to make it cheap…but our company tries to excel, not to compete. All cars have similar performance and four wheels … but everyone would be happier to have a Corvette or BMW or Mercedes …