Kartesian / THLP

Has anyone purchased any Kartesian drivers recently or dealt with THLP? I've been trying to create an account at THLP and can't get past the confirmation.

Both the Wom120_vMS and Mid120_vHE look very interesting to me as midranges covering, say, 400 Hz to 3k.
 
THLP is a well known company here in Europe with a good reputation. They had trouble altough after the datacenter in Strassbourgh that hosted their site burned down but they should be up again as far as i know. What is wrong?

You can contact them on FB otherwise for help: Toutlehautparleur/

Or call them on ++33 223276599 (but keep european office time in mind, we are here in western europe on GMT+1, offices are mostly open on weekdays between 9am to 5pm)
 
Hi,
Yes tlhp are serious peoples. I live nearby Vern sur Seiche and they are friendly.
As Waxx said they had issues with their site but it should now be fixed ( i had to recreate an account some month ago but everything was smooth from my side).

Kartesian offer is suposed to be serious too but i have no experience with them.
 
Glad to hear they are reputable and I have no intention of being critical. I registered for an account a while back. Since then, whenever I try to log in a message appears that my registration is not confirmed and the only option is to have the website send another confirmation email. I've done this and replied to the confirmation link four or five times now.

I'll try the facebook page.
 
I was skeptical too due to their website not having the best English “look and feel” (language, you know French people and their attitude to English lol) but I tried anyway and very happy with the price, fast shipping with tracking and the package was unharmed from great packing even though DHL always try to wreck things. Product I got seemed unopened brand new so all in all very happy. I ordered some celestion stuff, solid products for sure. Will definiy buy more from TLHP.
 
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"... and their attitude to English"


It is mostly because the food, lol !

French don't learn english at school like most other EU citizen do. If a french person speaks english, it's because his/her bussiness need it or he want it and learned it himself. In France, most only speak french, and bad luck if you don't understand it...

It's also because the UK is their old enemy since about 1500 years when the wars between the Anglish and Saxons germanic tribes (UK and northern Germany) vs the Frankish germanic tribes (France) broke out about the domination of western Europe after the Romans. Those wars shaped the history of Europe largely...
 
@ Waxx : I know, I live in Neustrie !


ahaha : yes, Perfid Albion, but good guys at the same time, I learned anglish because the Beatles and high college books I had to read 😉 ... but I wish I were born in Deutschland, Netherlands or better Norway to speak it fluently and not gardbage Shakespeare language as I daily do here (my bad, sincerely sorry for that).


@ Krivium : as Richard Coeur de Lion, the guy, not the cheese, received an arrow at Chalu, Limousin (english area at that time), I strongly wonder if the words "se tenir à carreau" vient de là (private french joke)


Ok, anyone as measured Kartesian drivers yet, would like to know as well 🙂


OK with THLP : they ship fast, but not always answers to mails, even if writted in french.
 
Sorry Waxx but it is not true. We learn english at school. But it is not as a 'high' level as others country.

I don't really agree totally with the rest of your answer ( you know 'oni soit qui mal y pense' stated by the english Crown emblems... it's french!).

The main reason is more about our past and 'colony' which at a time was more or less equal to 'comonwealth' hence no need to learn other language if you had to travel worldwide as there was most of the time a country where french is talked ( Africa, Asia, Oceania, north America).

Since WW2 things have changed and France is not as 'powerful' as it used to be ( or french thoughts they were powerful economically but culturaly too) and then the need to learn other language... 😉

That said french is still 'comon' at Olympics and when you have to publish in scientific circle ( but english start to eclipse it in science...next one being Chinese and Indian in probable order to come...).

Tbh most french are jealous from English cultural softpower ( 60's and 70's music) but... we still have food for us! Lol.

Diyiggy: ...the man not the cheese!!! Ah ah ah! Elle est bien bonne celle la!
 
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.... frankly, Krivium, it's learned as spanish cows and very lately in schools ! Just enough for back packing, but if you don't spend one years elswhere in GB, Stralia or US, how bad most of us talk it and write it, main reason you don't see so much french guys despite they have a good level in DIY hifi and have a lot to say about tubes and HF loudspeakers.

My english is for illustration mostly understood in India (same same but different, lol) where they speak better than us despite not being an english colony for a while today !

No we made just few progress and the general studying level is lowering in France but some High Schools where the level stay very high level in par with the best worldwide competitors... but that's few guys.


Ok off topic, sorry, my french !



Edit : Kouign Amann cake is perfect for training chineese gutural language !
 
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Well
, french study system is perfectly good at keeping people in their 'social class' as was shown by P.Bourdieu in the 70's (and since 2000's it's even more efficient at it)...

If you are on the good side you have access to some of the best study you can find, if not... Hence the reason our foreign friends don't always understand our own social struggle (gilets jaunes, bonnets rouge,...).

That said from a scientific side (sociology) it gives an explanation of most of this social agitation and fights we see: this 'system' is going to it's end and the next step is probably an other 'revolution' in years to come if things doesn't change.

Another reason for us to be bad at foreign language is our own french ubris too. This should not be overlooked because yes we are! 😉

Kouign Aman: the (brittany's food) answer to hunger in the world. 🙄 😀
Last time i eaten one i sweared not ate anymore butter in my lifetime as it could threaten my health!
 
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"... and their attitude to English"


It is mostly because the food, lol !

Sorry Waxx but it is not true. We learn english at school. But it is not as a 'high' level as others country.

I don't really agree totally with the rest of your answer ( you know 'oni soit qui mal y pense' stated by the english Crown emblems... it's french!).

The main reason is more about our past and 'colony' which at a time was more or less equal to 'comonwealth' hence no need to learn other language if you had to travel worldwide as there was most of the time a country where french is talked ( Africa, Asia, Oceania, north America).

Since WW2 things have changed and France is not as 'powerful' as it used to be ( or french thoughts they were powerful economically but culturaly too) and then the need to learn other language... 😉

That said french is still 'comon' at Olympics and when you have to publish in scientific circle ( but english start to eclipse it in science...next one being Chinese and Indian in probable order to come...).

Tbh most french are jealous from English cultural softpower ( 60's and 70's music) but... we still have food for us! Lol.

Diyiggy: ...the man not the cheese!!! Ah ah ah! Elle est bien bonne celle la!

Well, most french i know (and i know quiet a few) didn't have english lessons at school. Maybe some schools do it but it's not a general practice. And many keep a kind of bad attitude to the english also (altough with younger generations it's much less the case). Most also don't speak english and hardly understand a few words (but the younger internet generation). That is my experience and how most people see it outside France. The same applies to Spain btw.

In Belgium English is mandatory for all from the secondry school (high school in american system) with minimum 2 hours a week, and a lot of studends get also some english in primary school from the age of 10 (but it's not mandatory). Almost everybody who went to school after WOII (when this started) speaks at least a bit english down here, and many older do it also. Actually, most people in Belgium speak better english than the other language in our country (northern parts speaks dutch (dialects), the southern part french (dialects). This is like that in big parts of northern europe, less in southern europe. France and Spain are the worst in this.
 
To be honest, and being British, the same can be levelled at us. Pretty much no one can speak a second language conversationally, let alone fluently, and those that do either have lived abroad or are from bi or multi lingual backgrounds or have studied it as a career. The old adage goes, if you are abroad and people don’t understand you just speak slower and louder but still in English!!!

French, Spanish and to a lesser extent German is taught at secondary school but IMO this is way too late. If the UK were serious about second languages then they would be taught from the age of 5, but I do not believe that this will happen, similar to putting and emphasis on the STEM subjects because out of our 600+ members of parliament less than 10 have a background in engineering or STEM subjects, similarly for those with a second language. Therefore it is not on parliaments agenda to push irrespective of the benefits of maths, music and languages all helping to develop the Brian in similar and different ways.

Sorry, rant over, let’s get back to designing and building speakers, much less controversial.
 
yeah... "bangers and beans", versus "casoulet"...


In the Aera of CastelNaudary, Toulouse, more or less where the Cassoulet was invented, all the english residents with a second home residence there (one hour flight from Avalon), asked their french nationality after the brexit ! Ahaha, it says a lot about french food, bagers and beans, not not the same, completely different 😀... and you need french mustard and a strong red wine for that... not a beer for the Cassoulet (ahaha, no offense). They made a bastid in the Eymet village : all is english there : pubs, real estate agencies, maybe even the mayor/maire ! there is a moat around full of Guiness !


@ Krivium, due to the average level in the french public colleges (bac + 5 today not even equal to a Bac of the 70s) : you need to make such precision for the young readers with no culture when you talk to a young than passed the final college exams about " the Capital and The critic of the pure reason", you have to precise it's two different books yet ! Most of the time the guys say today : "Yes it's a good book, I liked the final scene with the thrown !"


Have you asked to the Kartesian guy if he readed DesKartes ? Ouais, des karts, ça c'est un auteur qui tient la route !
 
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