Originally posted by EUVL
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Would you be so kind to put a link or a schematics ?
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Thanks,
Patrick
this probably qualifies
mlloyd1
EUVL said:> but much worse than a source follower bootstrapped by another follower and loaded on a counter-modulated current source.
Would you be so kind to put a link or a schematics ?
Like this (except a BJT is used):

scott wurcer said:Did anyone ever notice that Horowitz and Hill shows the compementary source follower with FET's as a "bad idea". It is in a slightly different context but I thought it was funny.
Schematic?
What Scott was referring to was the misuse of enhancement and depletion mode fets. They won't interchange in some circuits.
myhrrhleine said:
That's choosing your market.
Either for the average masses, or the select few.
Hey, I have an idea.
Maybe a specialty device for the select few.
Maybe it could have special design consideration for those who can actually hear a difference.
Maybe John should go 'all out' on his design, but only expect a few discriminating customers because this would obviously cost more.
I thought he had: The Blowtorch??
...welcome to the Twilight Zone??
😀
_-_-bear
What is wrong here? Is this not the 'Blowtorch' thread? Is it not about trying to make the best of the best, (within reason) in audio designs? Who cares about the average person, in this case? IF serious designers would take 'Blowtorch' ideas and apply them to typical consumer products, then I am sure that audio quality would improve in general. However, we have to fight, tooth and nail, just to get our ideas recognized and accepted at all, even if they are free of extra cost. That is the frustrating part. 

john curl said:What is wrong here? Is this not the 'Blowtorch' thread? Is it not about trying to make the best of the best, (within reason) in audio designs? Who cares about the average person, in this case? IF serious designers would take 'Blowtorch' ideas and apply them to typical consumer products, then I am sure that audio quality would improve in general. However, we have to fight, tooth and nail, just to get our ideas recognized and accepted at all, even if they are free of extra cost. That is the frustrating part.![]()
...and after we won, there will be lot of followers who will not recognize us, like today trying to get a job in Internet and Intranet industry where I was one of pioneers, I am getting a strong resistance from gray masses. "How many years did you work with the application XYZ?", where all details of that applications may be learned in few hours... 😀
>However, we have to fight, tooth and nail,
>just to get our ideas recognized and accepted
>at all, even if they are free of extra cost.
>That is the frustrating part.
Yea. It's always the s**ts when people have
ideas of their own 🙁
>just to get our ideas recognized and accepted
>at all, even if they are free of extra cost.
>That is the frustrating part.
Yea. It's always the s**ts when people have
ideas of their own 🙁
john curl said:What about connecting wire, fellow engineers?
Do you mean something like Linkedin.com?
john curl said:What about connecting wire, fellow engineers?
I have the right to remain silent.
For a few minutes, anyway.
Tick.
Tick.
You are better off running a wire from the middle of a board (if the circuit terminates there), than running a trace to the edge of a board.
This is sonics.. not cosmetic appeal of the innards - to consumers.
Trace design is another art.
KBK said:You are better off running a wire from the middle of a board (if the circuit terminates there), than running a trace to the edge of a board.
Trace design is another art.
Could this be because of the effect of the manditory high-end ground plane on the signal traces?
Oh, nevermind, the nurse just came in to make sure I've taken my medication....
Tick
Tick
Ahhhh, now I'm on to it! It's the magical properties of the 8N grain oriented hyper-crystal wiring guiding the electric field that swimulates the signal transfer that I'm hearing. FR-4 really modulates the refractive curve!
Back to reality, electrons are stupid; if a wire sounds better than a trace, look around, don't punt.
Mike.
Postscript: I don't doubt that it sounds different, I just question the implication.
Cheers
I like to use quality wire. The minimum is oxygen free copper with a good insulation. Quality silver is the best that I have tried so far. However, it is expensive, and hard to break-in, and even directional. Darn, what a hassle. 

From my time in the military I 'inherited' many spools of mil-spec wire. Most of it is multistranded, silver-over-copper, Teflon insulated. I guess there's something better out there, but since I have this I use it and am happy with it.
One issue with multistrand is that the strands easily break at the soldering interface. That's why you always see it tightly strung up in military equipment. Not really diy-friendly. Is that the reason many prefer solid wire?
Jan Didden
One issue with multistrand is that the strands easily break at the soldering interface. That's why you always see it tightly strung up in military equipment. Not really diy-friendly. Is that the reason many prefer solid wire?
Jan Didden
john curl said:I like to use quality wire. The minimum is oxygen free copper with a good insulation. Quality silver is the best that I have tried so far. However, it is expensive, and hard to break-in, and even directional. Darn, what a hassle.![]()
how do you do the break in?
pink noise/music/sinus/square ??
how much level?
on the spool or off the spool?
how much time is minimum?
with speakers break in is very easy audible, and i hear also interconnects or speaker cable sound for me better after apx. 100 hours in normal use, but i would like to know a technical method to do it to get them right.
Groove-T said:................
and i hear also interconnects or speaker cable sound for me better after apx. 100 hours in normal use
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