I would use audio 'snake oil' if I found some that worked. I try to keep an open mind about these things.
I'm sure you would, in particular given your very special definition of "working".
John, by definition, if it works, it is not snake oil.
You understood I was second degree. About "belief in conspiracy theories".
T, snake oil in the west is deceptive marketing, could somewhat work but not as described, way better to use the real thing if there is a need for the functionality. I condemn deception. But people of southern China and south east Asia such as Thailand who lives in the mountains have been using real oil extracted from fat of a certain snake as topical medication for centuries.
T, we all joke about 'snake oil'. In fact, 20 years ago at CES when introducing the CTC Blowtorch preamp, we had bottles of 'snake oil' put out as a joke.
However, some people equate Jack Bybee's products, those of Vandenhul, etc, etc as if they are 'snake oil' but I have not found this to be the case. In fact, many tweaks and mods appear to work for improving audio quality, even though we have never 'proven' why they work. Without an open mind about audio improvements, and other things, like health might be compromised by closed minded opinions about anything not yet 'proven' to the satisfaction of some people
I don't expect you, T, or anyone else to necessarily try Bybee devices, or anything else, as they are just too expensive, and are too subtle in their action to warrant using, but keeping an open mind to such products is necessary to get the 'best' audio performance possible. Some people can afford them, and are very happy with their investment in them.
However, some people equate Jack Bybee's products, those of Vandenhul, etc, etc as if they are 'snake oil' but I have not found this to be the case. In fact, many tweaks and mods appear to work for improving audio quality, even though we have never 'proven' why they work. Without an open mind about audio improvements, and other things, like health might be compromised by closed minded opinions about anything not yet 'proven' to the satisfaction of some people
I don't expect you, T, or anyone else to necessarily try Bybee devices, or anything else, as they are just too expensive, and are too subtle in their action to warrant using, but keeping an open mind to such products is necessary to get the 'best' audio performance possible. Some people can afford them, and are very happy with their investment in them.
If the difference is too subtle, it might be called "snake oil". Because average people can not hear the difference. The worst if the marketing said nonsense 😀
I know some of my friends produce and sell "snake oil" product. It just worked, but they do not know why it worked.
I know some of my friends produce and sell "snake oil" product. It just worked, but they do not know why it worked.
That's called anecdote.
What is a never proven product that appears to work in someone's anecdotal experience? Hint, it starts with letter "s".
Agreed John, but I am still against any that uses deceptive means to sell them.
Cramolin is my favorite snake oil. I became a believer about 1985. GE had UHF radios that grew tin whiskers in the cavity and had flaky cheap trim pots. Replaced thousands of the pots more than once and finally tried cramolin. They never returned after that. Clear lacquer fixed the whiskers until a new metal plating was done. Even the FAA likes it and the old tweak product now sold as an automotive and aviation product. And I thought it wasn’t cheap for audio.
The old original product, if you run across a pair, still works great for exposed switches and such when restoring antiques (of that era). I apply with a strip of high clay business card: red, white (card only) and blue. And let the switch contacts' own tension exert the pressure.
All good fortune,
Chris
All good fortune,
Chris
I love Cramolin Red (original). I dilute it with isopropyl alcohol to extend it. I also use DeOxit for general work, which is more readily available today.
PM me if you need some more (extremely ancient, but still usable). And thanks for the tip on the isopropyl. D5 is great, but a worse spray can design is probably impossible. The chemistry is great though.
Much thanks, as always,
Chris
Much thanks, as always,
Chris
Scott, an apology goes a long way. Who isn’t a sinner here?
George
“…should see to it that in the process he does not become …” F.N.
“…and usually prefers silence to saying the something which is not…” E.A.P.
George
“…should see to it that in the process he does not become …” F.N.
“…and usually prefers silence to saying the something which is not…” E.A.P.
Funny words but no facts, apart from the pole where you probably mean north pole.
Just for completeness it would have been nice when having added that the south pole is increasing it's ice mass, despite having the same additional CO2 in the atmosphere, showing how complex the matter is and how little we still understand from climate issues.
Look at the image below, as one of the many reporting large deviations from models, published by the Wall Street Journal in 2014, not exactly yellow sensation journalism.
Like mentioned in the link to the paper that Bonsai gave us, all those models have been updated by now, suddenly showing a perfect match with the current measured data, but again going upwards like a rocket in the coming years.
A few years from now they will do the same again and adapt their curves to the new reality. Not a problem at all, but just honestly inform the world that the predictions were far too pessimistic and most likely still are.
All fake ??
Hans
Humans don't even fully understand audio reproduction. Doesn't stop people from being overly sure that they already know everything that can possibly be true (e.g. different 3' XLR cables can't sound different in real world conditions, unless maybe something truly pathological is happening).
Why should human confidence and behavior be any different in other areas of human endeavor?
Tut Mark. Comparing the difficulty of modelling a climate with your personal sighted ears onlog cable comparisons is a very poor analogy.
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