Still waiting for an actual argument as to how charlatan is a personal attack. I'm just seeing a bunch of non sequitur smoke screens going up. If charlatan is indeed a personal attack, then there should be an actual argument as to why it is a personal attack. And "because it is" isn't an argument.
If you're unable to put up a falsifiable description of how to classify a random person as a charlatan or not, then its an attack. I shan't be holding my breath for such a description to appear....
Let's say for the sake of argument that the person in question is that bad thing. A thief for example. Are you actually arguing that it is a personal attack to say that person is a thief? And that someone who is a thief should never be called a thief?
First question: Yes. "Personal attack" does not mean "untrue."
Second question: Depends on context. If it's in response to a post on this forum, yes. In other circumstances, perhaps not.
I emphasize that this is my personal opinion and not said as anything relating to my moderator role.
From Wikipedia, "a person practising quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, fame or other advantages" - you haven't pointed out the quackery, confidence trick, money, fame or other advantages, bits yet ...
Boy, you sure selectively edited that, didn't you?
How about the full quote? What were the seven words after "advantages" that you intentionally left out?
se
Charlatan ---- A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent claims to skill and knowledge.
THx-RNMarsh
THx-RNMarsh
Boy, you sure selectively edited that, didn't you?
Why do you feed it?
Bluetooth.
Ha, I love that commercial with the old lady pushing a cart and talking to 'herself'!
😀
First question: Yes. "Personal attack" does not mean "untrue."
No, it doesn't. And in the absolute broadest sense, saying someone is a charlatan is a "personal attack." But just as "personal attack" does not always mean "untrue," neither is it always "inappropriate." Certainly it's inappropriate when used as an attempt to dismiss legitimate argument. But I have not used charlatan to do that and feel my use of the term has been appropriate.
se
But just as "personal attack" does not always mean "untrue," neither is it always "inappropriate."
But sometimes it is. Let go of his ankle!
Yup, and it hasn't stopped.This is where Steve started, http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/loun...ch-preamplifier-part-ii-6297.html#post4251615, and he's dead wrong ...
Current thread SNR is approaching zero.
Dan.
Because you've already addressed that part - a definition of something means that all the parts have to be in place, for the thing to be actually so - you know, logic, and all that sort of rubbish ...Boy, you sure selectively edited that, didn't you?
How about the full quote? What were the seven words after "advantages" that you intentionally left out?
se
But sometimes it is. Let go of his ankle!
I already did. I'm just shaking some little yappers off my ankle.
se
Yup, and it hasn't stopped.
Current thread SNR is approaching zero.
Reading se's rationalizations is entertaining for now, so signal, not merely noise.... 😛
Calling somebody a charlatan doesn't really advance the argument, but it does act as a placeholder for a more considered objection in the face of a blizzard of assertions characteristic of charlatanry.
I do appreciate se's determination not to be swamped by the sheer repetition of these determined cargo-cultists.
I do appreciate se's determination not to be swamped by the sheer repetition of these determined cargo-cultists.
Calling somebody a charlatan doesn't really advance the argument, but it does act as a placeholder for a more considered objection .
When the name calling is over and tantrums subsided, we can ask and answer technical questions like adults.
THx-RNMarsh
Hawksford
Was the Hawksford material referenced when he was going on about some sort of granularity in low-level signals? That was a bit wooly, advanced degrees or not.
Was the Hawksford material referenced when he was going on about some sort of granularity in low-level signals? That was a bit wooly, advanced degrees or not.
Brad, OT material not allowed ...
OK, fair enough 😀
What did you do to your second-hand laptop to make it sound better?
Was the Hawksford material referenced when he was going on about some sort of granularity in low-level signals? That was a bit wooly, advanced degrees or not.
The fuzzy distortion stuff was very speculative, fuzzy thinking IMHO.
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