Again its myths such as these that make people think twice about getting involved with DIY audio and trying to improve their sound system...the esoteric mysteries such as cable sounds and marker pens.
1. Your system sucks.
2. You can't hear well.
3. You don't listen to music, you just look at an oscilloscope.
4. You are incapable of feeling love.
I haven't gotten past 4 yet, perhaps you can do better.
I don't wanted to be unpleasant against anybody, dvv. (And specially not against J.C.)
Neither to enter in a new cable's sound controversy...
It was not negative in my mind, and those questions, i ask them (differently) daily about myself. Why all those people so interested in 'social networks' while i don't even understand the meaning or utility of Twiter, buzz, followers etc... ?
Well, i try to be as scientific as i can, because i was educated as it...
Not 100%, because i know... that we don't know 100% of the physical aspects of the things...
About the measurements between analog recording (magnetic tapes) or vinyl, there is nothing that can be compared, linearity of bandwidth, distortion, signal noise ratio, immunity against external pollution, conservation of the datas during long periods... Digital wins of one or two digits on all and every aspects...
Well, my experiences is different from the J.C. ones. Happily my feelings correlated measurements, and, after the trials and errors of the very first digital gears, i found digital to be a lot better and reliable for recording, mixing and producing music... A better make-believe tool for a better illusion.
Let-me give an other example. Digital photography. While the superiority of digital was very quickly obvious for colour photography, i found some magic lost in the process comparing with black and white chemical old films. Until my last Sony A7 (full frame). But, yes, i had to learn a new way to 'write' photography... We have to learn to use the medias, and we don't paint the same way with oil and watercolor ...
That was the only intent of my message, to share those questions...
Vinyl is a technology from the past. Let-us concentrate on today and tomorrow progresses with today and tomorrow technology...
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Older vinyl users have decent records collections, and they wish to extract more information out of the black grooves. It is exciting when you hear a new nuance in old favourites after building a new phono stage , installing new cartridge etc. It is a passion.
I have recently lubricated interior of my 26 years old PT-Too turntable motor.
What an improvement in reproduction!How many owners of Pink or Linn(the same motor)did the same?Pure pleasure in listening to say 1974 LP in the new light.
I have recently lubricated interior of my 26 years old PT-Too turntable motor.
What an improvement in reproduction!How many owners of Pink or Linn(the same motor)did the same?Pure pleasure in listening to say 1974 LP in the new light.
But are you sure, or did you 'expect' it to sound better, and so it did? what actually changed? rumble, vibration, or something else? Note I am not doubting you here.
SY,
Just for you I will part with a brand new actual size plot of Picasso's Guernica painting for only $2,500,000.00.
It is digital copy, so obviously perfect.
ES
Just for you I will part with a brand new actual size plot of Picasso's Guernica painting for only $2,500,000.00.
It is digital copy, so obviously perfect.
ES
SY you didn't get that, I politely asked you if you were incapable of love, since emotion in music did seem to bother you. So pleas don't take things out of context.
I expected nothing , I only wished to preserve motor from wear.But motor became more silent, almost completely, with much less rumble and resonances transmited to platter.
At the same time, subjective surface noise was reduced, mid range opened,
stereo image much sharper etc. I would say that good, silent motor with good torque is the most important part of the turntable together with platter spindle.
Yes, that must be it. Emotion in music bothers me. I'll make that #5.
1. Your system sucks.
2. You can't hear well.
3. You don't listen to music, you just look at an oscilloscope.
4. You are incapable of feeling love.
5. Emotion in music bothers you.
I used white lithium grease for high pressure surfaces and light SAE10 oil for motor spindle and sleeve.
I don't think that piece has fallen into the public domain yet, The Last Supper, yes.
Hobby is alive, play and joy. Same reason why jaguar E still makes you want one. Problem with digital as replay source is can simply be discribed by this exprience I had not so long ago. I pulled from my parents storage my old TT, from the early 90'ies. A Micro DQX-1000, 505 arm and MC-20 cartridge from 1985. Set up and it immidately made the records, I also have on CD and files, sound so unbelievable much better. And to be honest my digital equipment collection is not all bad (DCS, playback design, Nagra, Weiss and Berkeley) Vinyl simply make Cohen a better singer, dynamics are better an the music makes more sense.. Please explain why 30 odd years or something has not brought us any steps forward..??
I wonder how this would be with a TT rig in the same price range as the digital stuff
I wonder how this would be with a TT rig in the same price range as the digital stuff
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A real impass here. FWIW I have given up on Blue Ray, 3D, curved screens, 4K, HD audio formats, etc. none of these make up for the dearth of classic source material or improves it enough for me to bother replacement.
Last night I enjoyed one of my favorite classic 1961 TV shows that did not survive except as well worn 16mm film played over UHF TV recorded and duped on VHS and finally lovingly saved by someone onto DVD. The quality of the audio was surprising BTW.
Naw, those are all on one of the retro channels, Gardner Mckay's Adventures in Paradise.
A few episodes were almost surreal, like an anti-nuke testing one with natives putting themselves in harms way (this was 1959 or so).
There was one where our hero's task was to bring a generator to an isolated island during a hurricane. It turns out the guy wanted to listen to his LP's so desperately that he sat there listening as his house was washed away. The wife was saved by our hero of course. If I can find this one again you should see it, if it is as I remember I couldn't believe this was from 1960 and so strange.
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We are obviously on very different planets. I dont know about His digital playback system..... but yours could be outstanding using his help (or anothers well versed in digital). No contest, direct -analog or digital source - to playback without all the intermediate disks of any type is best.
Master tape direct to the playback system is better than LP. LP made direct from mic preamp to cutter is better than using tape. Cut out all these middle processing steps if you can and get the highest fidelity. Today's best digital offers the closest possibility to go 'direct'...... lets go perfect it. That just leaves the power amp and speaker (and acoustics) for us to perfect and some here have moved the needle in that regard, as well.
Long live the LP !
-Richard
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