... why get bogged down in 1968, except for reasons of nostalgia and historical recollection?
I´m interested in John´s elegant engineered circuits, and I hope he
continues to post and explain them, despite personal attacks and snide
remarks. And BTW if all this is "sorted since 30 years", then it makes
sense to look at circuits from 30 years (and more) ago, no ? (At least this
is something where I could agree, in so far as I prefer a competent 30 years
old amp to the crap sold today).
@vacuphile: To be clear, DF (more accurately, source impedance) and frequency response go hand in hand with power amps.
And BTW if all this is "sorted since 30 years", then it makes
sense to look at circuits from 30 years (and more) ago, no ?
As historical recollection, sure; that's one major reason I love designing stuff with tubes. For modern design (outside of the fashion audio niche), no, there's much simpler, more efficient, and less expensive ways of doing things.
There you go...you learned something from my thread.
Here's to share to others here...Pale blue dot: Voyager 1 signal from interstellar space photographed - NBC News.com
22 watts across 12 billion miles will do...
Where's Mooly when we need him...?
Looking out the window at a pale blue dot 😛
Here's to share to others here...Pale blue dot: Voyager 1 signal from interstellar space photographed - NBC News.com
22 watts across 12 billion miles will do...
There you go...you learned something from my thread.
I never said I didn't 😀
The real time updated distance of the Voyagers is quite something to watch,
Where are the Voyagers - NASA Voyager
And all that technology at a time when John was designing audio stages. Wonder what the technology of the Voyager transmitters was, devices used and such.
Enough, enough 😀 back on topic... for now.
Here's to share to others here...Pale blue dot: Voyager 1 signal from interstellar space photographed - NBC News.com
22 watts across 12 billion miles will do...
I never said I didn't 😀
The real time updated distance of the Voyagers is quite something to watch,
Where are the Voyagers - NASA Voyager
And all that technology at a time when John was designing audio stages. Wonder what the technology of the Voyager transmitters was, devices used and such.
Enough, enough 😀 back on topic... for now.
I´m interested in John´s elegant engineered circuits, and I hope he
continues to post and explain them, despite personal attacks and snide
remarks. And BTW if all this is "sorted since 30 years", then it makes
sense to look at circuits from 30 years (and more) ago, no ? (At least this
is something where I could agree, in so far as I prefer a competent 30 years
old amp to the crap sold today).
I hope too.
So, the " actual " electrons are more beautiful than 30 years ago ?!

I do not make my life with audio but I spent much of my free time panning for what I can learn from him.
I like the way of John and I appreciate very much your dedication and altruism with us.
God bless him and long life to John !
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It's good that you understand then and other moderators too. Because what I posted is not mucking a Thread nor is insulting to someone. I just hope for NO double standards here at diyA...
Now what were you saying John...?
Now what were you saying John...?
Thank you to bombing us to pieces, the apartment building we where living in. We where lucky to survive under the rubble. Just a reminder, not everybody is dancing when hear stories like that.![]()
Are you for real ..... 🙁
Well for grins here is my latest speaker test box under construction.
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Good size need tons more bracing .....🙂
You don't think big enough 🙄.
I am a bit limited by my forklift capacity. Besides that is an entire unit of baltic birch plywood, 2 kg of screws and 3 liters of glue.
Good size need tons more bracing .....🙂
Actually we did have to move the bracing a bit for better results!
Don't forget that $10k challenge guy who's run a few thousand trials. And the peer-reviewed work published in JAES by people like Lipshitz, Vanderkooy, and several others decades ago. Or the work cited by Clark. And, and, and. Like I said, this has been referenced here numerous times, and if someone with a track record of making wild claims is too lazy to look it up, I'm not going to do it for him.
Could you cite a documentation about the results of the "$10k challenge guy" that meets any serious scientific standard?
I am pretty sure that you would call something like that handwaiving (or dishonest or recasting of the statistics) if it were presented as proof of audible differences in amplifiers which measure ok. (ok means that no single parameter is measured above the known thresholds of hearing).
It is simply impossible to show that these tests were objective, valid and reliable in most cases.
This has been linked to many times before. I'm confident that you can find it.
All i have ever seen about it, was this information:
Richard Clark Amplifier Challenge FAQ
Therefore i asked for something that meets the usual requirements.
Peer review .........Vendetta Research
Vendetta Research SCP-2 phono preamplifier Measurements | Stereophile.com
Throw up yours now Sy , Scott ..... 🙂
Vendetta Research SCP-2 phono preamplifier Measurements | Stereophile.com
Throw up yours now Sy , Scott ..... 🙂
Obviously i already knew the information which was, according to you, linked a couple of thousands times, but i failed to find some documentation that meets the usual scientific standards.
But if something like this is good enough than we have to conclude that Fremer and others already delivered evidence for some assertions of the GEB. 😉
But if something like this is good enough than we have to conclude that Fremer and others already delivered evidence for some assertions of the GEB. 😉
Throw up yours now Sy , Scott ..... 🙂
See my article "His Master's Noise" in the Articles section of this site.
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